Chapter 155: Intent
Guo Taiming is a smart person, and smart people's brain supplement ability is also very strong, some things only need to be said one point, and for smart people, he knows the whole picture.
Therefore, when Jace didn't talk about it in particular, and talked to him about the fact that he sent someone to the mainland to investigate, he realized that this time Jester wanted to see him not as he expected, but it was as simple as talking about an OEM contract, but Guo Taiming didn't want to be led to a circle that he hadn't prepared in advance, so he continued to lead the topic to the biggest purpose of his coming this time.
"Hehe, Mr. Li, let's talk about business." Guo Taiming said, picked up the teacup, blew on the hot air, took a sip of tea, and then continued, "I don't know how much Mr. Li needs to do OEM?"
Although Jester wanted to talk to the other party about investment and cooperation in the mainland, the other party didn't want to talk about it now, and he wouldn't be bored, so when Guo Taiming brought the topic back to the product OEM he wanted, he followed Guo Taiming's words.
"It depends on how many units you can provide each month." In Jester's view, one-time quantities are useless, and there is no total output for the number of goods to be distributed with Nintendo, so we can only look at the shipments in a short period of time, and by the end of the year at the latest, the first phase of his production center in the mainland will be able to reach the design capacity.
Guo Taiming also heard what Jester meant, and he pondered for a while before continuing: "After the official production of the several factories that I am currently closing can be about 30 to 500,000 units, and now, in the first two months, there can be about 200,000 units, of course, without other production tasks to interfere. ”
"200,000 units?"
For this number, Jester is very dissatisfied, but there is no way, the current Hon Hai is not the future behemoth, the production capacity of millions of units per month is like a bag, now it can provide 200,000 units per month, and it can be increased to 300,000 to 500,000 units after two months, which is already very good.
But these productions are a drop in the bucket compared to Nintendo's inventory, not to mention their daily production.
In Jester's memory, in the original history, NES was the annual toy sales champion in the United States from 85 years to 89 years before the Sega MD was launched in North America, with an average annual sales of nearly 10 million units, and its own production capacity, even with the addition of Hon Hai, can only reach a little more than half of this number, and at most no more than two-thirds.
Seeing that Jester didn't speak, Guo Taiming thought that the other party was dissatisfied, so he continued to explain: "As far as I know, there may not be a second OEM company that can provide a stable output of 200,000 units every month. ”
Jester believes this, now there are still very few companies specializing in OEM, generally OEM will have their own brand, only when their own brand sales are not good, they will give some big brands to do OEM, usually still based on their own brand.
This is also the problem faced by Jester in finding foundry in Japan, although the scattered Japanese foundry also has about 100,000 output per month, but it is unstable, and the contract is short-term, and Guo Taiming's Hon Hai has seen the prospects of the foundry industry from the beginning, so he does not create his own products, which is to let other companies that want to find foundry rest assured of them.
This is also where Guo Taiming was unique at the beginning.
The most important thing is that Hon Hai is still in the stable dìng, and other small manufacturers with their own products only do OEM business when their products cannot be sold, sign a short-term contract, and then make their own products after they are done, so that the production capacity will not be stable, and the production capacity will not be stable, and the head office will not be able to make reasonable sales or some other plans according to the production capacity.
Just like those foundry companies that Jester is looking for in Japan, at the peak, all the foundry companies can add up to three or four hundred thousand units per month, but in fact, this is only theoretical, and now it can be maintained at more than ten or two hundred thousand units is a very good number.
"Steady dìng?" In Jester's eyes, the stability of production is a parameter that is more important than capacity.
Hearing this question, Guo Taiming first groaned, the number he said before is indeed watery, what he said about 200,000 units per month, 300,000 to 500,000 units in two months is not bragging, his factory does have such a capacity at present, but this is in the absence of other OEM contracts.
And in Guo Taiming's eyes, Mars Entertainment, or Jester's status in his eyes, is not as high as Comber, HP and other personal computer manufacturers, although he is also optimistic that the video game industry may revivenation, but after all, this is just a toy, even if it is revived, it is still small in the future of the computer market.
In other words, it is impossible for him to increase the production of Jester's products, and to extend the production cycle of these personal computer companies that he has finally talked about.
Seeing Guo Taiming's expression, Jester also understood what he meant, indeed, he also knew that in a short period of time, the potential of the computer market is indeed not comparable to video games, but the personal computer is actually a price competition in the end, because the price of a qiē accessories is open and transparent, and it is impossible to make a business of 1,000 US dollars by adding a hard disk like Dell.
But the problem is that the low profit of PC has nothing to do with foundry companies, and they don't sell PCs, for them, they only need to produce, so the larger the market, the more popular it is for foundry companies.
And game consoles, although the profits are large, but the market is small, scattered and scattered so one or two large factories production, such as Nintendo's FC/NES, a total of more than 60 million units sold, looking at a lot, in fact, spread evenly into the year, it is only a few million a year, the peak of the best-selling level of 10 million units.
To be honest, this kind of quantity, it is impossible for a pure foundry company to become bigger, and the PC market is different, replacing the sales of NES/FC with PCs - 60 million PCs may not even be enough for the PC market in the next few years.
For an OEM company, the difference is too big, although the current annual profit of Mars Entertainment is considered a leader in the entire Silicon Valley new technology companies, but this is of little significance to a person like Guo Taiming who is dedicated to OEM.
This is also the reason why Jester does not plan to operate his production base in the mainland for a long time, that is, because he only produces for himself, even if it is an arcade machine, a home machine, a handheld machine, all the production bases are placed on the mainland, and it is impossible to become bigger, so at the beginning, Jester had the idea of waiting for Guo Taiming to invest in the mainland in a few years, and wanted to use his manufacturing center in Shanghai to join forces with him.
"Mr. Li, to tell you the truth, I can't guarantee that we will maintain 200,000 units every month, but we don't have many other OEM tasks recently, and we can reach this output in the next three to four months." Guo Taiming loosened his eyebrows, he didn't tell a lie, he could be regarded as honest.
Jester had already decided in his heart to sign Hon Hai's order, but he didn't want to reveal his decision so quickly.
But the main reason why he saw Guo Taiming this time was not just OEM, but about mainland investment, Jester originally planned to wait for Guo Taiming to personally go to the mainland to investigate and then contact him to talk about this matter, but now that they have met, and I don't know if he has time in the future, we simply talked about it together.
Therefore, Jester first avoided the OEM question and did not answer, and deliberately shifted the topic back to the direction of investing and building factories in the mainland: "Mr. Guo, do you have any intention of joint venture when you invest and build factories in the mainland?" ”
Hearing Jester's question, Guo Taiming just frowned.
"Mr. Li is also interested in OEM?" Just after a moment, Guo Taiming's frowning eyebrows quickly relaxed, and he said with a smile, "I am not against joint ventures, but the premise is that I want to have a controlling stake, and investors cannot interfere with my operation of the enterprise - of course, there must be financial supervision rights, what, is Mr. Li still interested?" ”
This is half-true, Guo Taiming does not have much liquidity in his hands, and he needs a lot of money to expand the scale, and a small investment is just a drop in the bucket for him, and he is not interested, and a large investment, he does not want to affect his right to speak after other people's capital comes in, the problem is that there are not many investors who ignore it after investing a large amount of money.
Therefore, Guo Taiming simply said his conditions directly to make Jester retreat, but he didn't say anything to death, if Jester could agree to his request, the joint venture was not impossible.
Unexpectedly, Jester nodded unexpectedly to Guo Taiming.
"Very reasonable conditions, as the founder of a business, naturally hope that he can be responsible for the company, and then watch him grow, and as an investor, the main purpose is to get the profits he wants from the invested enterprises, they sometimes have the opposite effect on these companies, but the intention is good, after all, no one wants their investment to go down the drain - but the question is, Mr. Guo, do you think you can do it to let investors get the profits they want?"
Hearing Jester's words, Guo Taiming's face showed a look of surprise, his eyebrows raised, and his eyes, which originally looked a little godless because of staying up late, suddenly showed a shrewd look, and he did not answer Jester's slightly questioning words directly, but asked a rhetorical question.
"So, does Mr. Li have this intention?" R1152