A Dream of Jinling Chapter 299 Solving the Cow (12)

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"Your Excellency, are you selling your knowledge?" The translator relayed Uncle En's words in a sincere tone, obviously with personal affection.

Wei Ze changed from cheeky to shameless many years ago, and when he was questioned like this, he was like no one. "The foundation of Marxism is the science of continuous progress, and if Marxism cannot develop with the progress of science and technology, it will be made into Marxist fundamentalism, or ** fundamentalism. In my opinion, historical materialism is so simple, so simple, so close to life. Detached from life and engaging in high-mindedness, that is a method of playing with religion, and this is not a scientific attitude. ”

Uncle En smiled slightly, these words are generally what he said to the people of the European Comintern, and those people's understanding of He ** is actually similar to what Wei Ze said sarcastically. They think it's a slogan that can be used as a banner, it's a totem that can be used to fight against all injustice. As for what the totem itself represents, the Comintern in Europe has done little research. In contrast, China does not have much propaganda for **, but it does not seem to be particularly propaganda in China.

"Your Excellency, is what you just said correct? Wouldn't it be a denial of human autonomy to think of all qiē as material decisions? Wei Ze's content about the structure of the brain's thinking gave Uncle En a lot of action. The image of Wei Ze cutting and cutting on the brains of living people with a magnifying glass and a scalpel appeared inexplicably, even though he knew that Wei Ze would not actually do this, Uncle En still had a strong sense of danger, and this kind of strong supervisor speculation was a very rare thing for Uncle En.

Weeser leaned back on the couch, he liked the question, "Science has nothing to do with right or wrong. Science is an attitude, a method. Historical materialism holds that what we grasp is relative truth rather than absolute truth, but if we can continue to develop along the scientific path, we also have the opportunity to grasp absolute truth with accumulation. In fact, I would like someone to come up with a more scientific theory of brain structure and human behavior. With that kind of accurate understanding, we can make us more powerful. ”

"But wouldn't such a precise analysis, such a clear result, become fatalism?" Uncle Eun looked at Wei Ze with a smile, he actually liked the question very much.

"If someone had asked me this question, I probably wouldn't have been able to discuss this air-to-air issue in a relaxed manner. One of the common reactions of human beings today is to first accept a seemingly absurd but temporarily undeniable scientific idea against their will, and then make some idealistic comments and speculations on this idea. When those air-to-empty statements can no longer be justified, they are forced to expand infinitely according to their own thinking. In the end, the decadent attitude of 'nihilism' is presented in the kind of helpless fantasy. This is an individual attitude, and if it is extended to the whole country, the collective mentality that will not solve the problem in any way will cause a country to show signs of decay. So, Mr. Engels, I can discuss all kinds of issues with you very easily, but when it comes to dealing with the social dimension, I have to be cautious. This is not a fatalistic problem, it is a social problem that can easily arise when the productive forces cannot solve the problems faced by the people. ”

Wei Ze spoke at length, and Uncle En also listened quietly. This view that all problems are attributed to the level of development of the productive forces makes Uncle En feel that something is not quite right, and the liberation of the productive forces can indeed solve many problems, but the person who presses all the problems above the level of development of the productive forces, Wei Ze is the first person Uncle En has ever met. This attitude of only talking about productive forces and not about production relations made Uncle En feel a dangerous atmosphere. ”

Uncle En's suspicion that Wei Ze never mentioned the relationship of production was because he didn't want to talk about this issue with foreigners, but after thinking about it carefully, Uncle En's thought it was unlikely. In his letter to Uncle Ma, Wei Ze never objected to the role of productive forces in the relations of production. It is impossible for such a person who attaches importance to the development of the productive forces to turn a blind eye to the relations of production in any case.

Thinking of this, Uncle En asked, "Your Excellency, why don't you talk about your implementation of these theories?" ”

"All the specific execution has given me very negative feelings, so I can't talk about it." Weese replied.

At this time, the translation comrades were dumbfounded, they glared at Wei Ze, and even the translation work was suspended. If there was only such a sentence, the translators probably would not be so stunned. The content of this conversation has always exceeded the imagination of the translators, and the sharp and straightforward content has always brought quite strong negative feelings to the translators. If Weser had boasted like a living god that he had overcome all negative feelings, the interpreters would probably still have a sense of balance. Now Wei Ze actually frankly admitted that he himself actually felt a heavy negative feeling for it. The translators felt terrible.

If Weser himself walked quietly and silently to the shore of the bitter sea, and sailed in it himself. Everyone has nothing to say, and now Wei Ze quietly showed this bitter sea to everyone, and after everyone saw this thing, he didn't say enthusiastically, "Everyone follow me, and you will definitely be able to get through such difficulties." And chose to say with a blank face: "Let's stay up here endlessly, because I'm also so hard." "Such a leader is simply an incompetent representative.

However, the translators soon recovered, and it was not because they were psychologically restored, but because of the vocational training they received that they subconsciously chose to continue working in such a situation.

Uncle En was not surprised by what Wei Ze said, if Wei Ze happily said how he could solve all the problems, then Uncle En's evaluation of Wei Ze was probably "a very good liar". If these hardships could be easily overcome, then human beings should have entered the ** society a long time ago. The revolutions of all countries in the world have shed so much blood, and the revolution that broke out in China more than 30 years ago killed hundreds of millions of people and paid such a huge price, and China has only made great strides in the fight against feudalism, and so far there has been no system or theory that can make people feel the brightness of construction. Even if he knew the difficulty of a set of systems and theories in the construction department, Uncle En couldn't help but feel a little disappointed.

Thinking of this, Uncle Enn said to Wei Ze: "Your Excellency, Karl has always had a question about whether you will be a revolutionary or become the biggest counter-revolutionary. In Carl's view, you have excellent ability, far-reaching vision and execution. You have pushed human society forward a lot, but that does not prevent you from becoming the biggest counter-revolution in history. The criterion for judging whether you are a revolutionary or a counter-revolutionary is that the qiē you create is ultimately under public or private ownership. ”

The translator didn't expect this foreign devil to speak so bluntly, and he dared to use the counter-revolution, or the biggest counter-revolutionary, to describe Wei Ze. After the translation, the translator looked at Wei Ze, who was not angry, and his heart became even more unhappy. Could it be that the governor of Wei Zedu was so polite to outsiders? Why isn't he angry when he is attacked by foreigners to such an extent? Even for the sake of those who worship Wei Ze, there are some objections.

Wei Ze obviously didn't notice the translation's feelings, and Uncle Ma's opinion conveyed by Uncle En really made Wei Ze feel quite touched. He replied with some thought: "Mr. Marx really thinks too highly of me, and let me completely reverse private property by myself, is this an impossible task?" ”

Uncle Enn nodded, he had always thought that Uncle Ma's requirements for Wei Ze were too harsh, so harsh that they didn't look like what a historical materialist would say. If an individual's ability can completely turn the world around, there is only one possibility, and that is that the world has reached the point where only the meager strength of such a person can complete the last step. In today's world, not to mention the capitalist system, it is still strong and powerful, and even the feudal system has not completely gone into the dustbin of history. Wesser's evaluation of feudalism really expands the depth and breadth of social theory.

The abolition of land feudalism did not eliminate the feudal system, and the subdivision of power was also a feudal system or a higher-level feudal system. Moreover, this kind of power separation is more concealed and deceptive, that is, more reasonable.

Of course, the world is far from even where it is time to discuss these issues calmly, and there are too many people in the world who are struggling to the brink of hunger. China's rise has only allowed industrialized civilization to cover the entire planet at an astonishing rate. Ten years ago, there was probably an Africa outside of industrial civilization. The agreement reached five years ago to carve up Africa has forced this last deindustrialized land into a global wave of industrialization.

On the planet today, every border is flanked by industrial countries, or at least the agricultural areas with industrial countries standing behind them. The war in North America was a war between two industrial countries, and in other regions of tension, military conflict was on the verge of breaking out.

Count on Weser alone to solve all the problems and lead the entire planet to a brighter future. Uncle Eun thinks that people with such thoughts really underestimate human beings.

When Uncle En sorted out his thoughts, Wei Ze spoke, "Both public ownership and private ownership must be means to solve the current problems, if both public ownership and private ownership can solve the current problems, of course I will work hard to promote public ownership." But when only private ownership can solve the problem, I will also choose private ownership. Just like my country's catering industry, I really can't solve it with public ownership. But in an industry like tap water, I have to use public ownership to solve it. None of these problems can be solved by a simple ownership relationship. ”

Uncle Eun agrees that the world may be simple, but simple slogans can never really explain the world as it is. Just as he waited for Weeser to elaborate on this, Weeser said: "Mr. Engels, I personally hope that you will stay in China. I don't know if you're interested in this? ”

"Would you like me to work for you?" Uncle En had also thought about such a possibility, so he asked very frankly.

Weeser's tone was equally frank, "I personally don't need others to work for me, and for those excellent people, asking them to work for others is a joke." Even if they are not at the level of Mr. Engels, they can clearly understand that everything they do is their own choice. I would like to invite Mr. Engels to participate in the work of building a more advanced system in China. Personally, I think you would be interested in a job that can put your social ideas into practice. ”

"Do you treat your subordinates with equality and respect?" Uncle En asked.

Wei Ze didn't like this question, and talking to a translator didn't give Wei Ze a friendly feeling, even with a big man like Uncle En. He said in as calm a tone as possible: "I don't have subordinates around me, I am surrounded by comrades, all comrades who have similar political views as me. The reason we are united is not that they belong to me, but that they are also affiliated with a political party that has a common political philosophy. I am not asking you to join the Liberation Party, but I ask you to stay in China and participate in the work of building a new system. ”

"So you didn't invite me to join your government?" Uncle Eun asked in European custom.

"We have only the people's government here, and the official name of all governments is the people's government. You want to join my government, and you can't find one that belongs to me. Wei Ze smiled bitterly.

"If I don't join the Liberation Party, and I don't join the government, where do you want me to play? Is it exercising power as your staff or secretary? Uncle En went straight to the point, and he did hit the point.

Wei Ze was a little speechless for a while, if he didn't belong to the political party and the government, then Uncle En's probably only had the identity of Wei Ze's personal minister. But this couldn't help Wei Ze, "I invite you to join the party school and participate in the research of the subject as an appointed professor of the party school. ”

"Academic institutions?" Uncle En said half-to himself.

"Yes, historical materialism, as a science, naturally needs to be preserved in academic institutions." Weser replied somewhat perfunctorily. This conversation lasted for a long time, and Wei Ze also felt that the love was not as full as it was at the beginning. What's more, Uncle Ma's evaluation of Wei Ze really affected Wei Ze's mood a lot.

In the 21st century, there is a perception in Weeser's circle. It is precisely because Uncle Ma put forward a revolutionary program that reveals the essence of capitalist operation. So capitalism was saved. "Capital" does live up to its name, that is, it makes capital operation a science.

Later, when the Soviet Union appeared, the capitalist systems of Europe and the United States had to attack and oppose Uncle Ma's theory on the surface when they were competing for hegemony, but in fact they drew countless nutrients from Uncle Ma's theory. Between 1950 and 1970, there was a time when state-owned enterprises outnumbered private enterprises in Europe.

But with the collapse of the Soviet Union, Europe and the United States felt that they had won **, so they proudly declared ** defeated. In Weeser's view, the defeat of the USSR has nothing to do with the defeat of the **. ** The system is a system that human society has to adopt after the development of the productive forces to a certain level, and the Soviet Union is a country created by the Soviets, and the two are not necessarily related.

Originally, with such a detached mentality, Wei Ze has never paid attention to the flag-taking of the social system. I didn't expect Wei Ze to pay attention, but Uncle Ma was very concerned. In the end, Wei Ze was given the big hat of "the biggest counter-revolutionary". If others scolded Wei Ze like this, Wei Ze smiled and passed. Inside, Weeser felt that the vast majority of people in this world were more reactionary than Weese. However, in front of the ancestor who founded the sect, Wei Ze was always empty in his heart. What's more, the problem of public ownership and private ownership is so difficult to solve, and Weeser also knows that he will not be able to achieve any fundamental change in his lifetime.

Just when Wei Ze was depressed and wanted to end the conversation quickly, he heard Uncle En's ask, "Your Excellency, I want to ask a question." What do you think about people's democracy. ”

"People's democracy is a process, not a result. Does Mr. Marx believe that the one-person-one-vote model can really solve the problem? Wei Ze was angry in his heart, and he was a little impulsive when he spoke. The translators were unexpectedly full of affection. After the foreign devil made a series of extremely disrespectful questions about Wei Zedu, Wei Zedu Du also recruited the foreign devil. Although I don't dare to do anything in my words because of this, the negative content in the translated sentiment can be imagined. Now the governor is a little unhappy, but the interpreters are happy.

Weeser has already had a lot of considerations about this, and this part of the content is an aspect that Weeser is very dissatisfied with himself. So his speed of speech was a little faster, and his tone seemed solemn. "I think the people must be working people, and the reciprocity of rights and duties also needs to be discussed."

"You look down on the people?" Uncle Eun sensed something from it.

"No!" Wei Ze shook his head vigorously, and in order to express his feelings, he waved his hand again and again, "The people are the smartest and the wisest. Because they are different from those who are on the top, they have to face real problems every day, and they have to carry out the practice of life and production. So the people know best what is going on, and the people know best what the problem is. He who underestimates the people is the stupidest person. But the people know what is going on, and the people are also normal human beings. This is when the contradiction arises in which the level of productivity is so low that it is impossible to provide the means for the people to solve their problems. I am not referring to the lack of initiative of the people, but it is indeed those who can solve practical problems. But the contradictions are very complex. ”

Uncle Eun listened to Wei Ze's words, and almost blurted out the words "Do you want to build a world with you as the core". But Uncle Eun held back. It's easy to criticize people in such words, but there is often no correlation between criticizing others and being able to solve problems. Uncle Eun knows this very well.

"Your Excellency, I cannot accede to your invitation right now. However, I will be staying in China in the near future, so please allow me to travel and investigate in China. Uncle En said.

"In the next few days, there will be a letter of appointment to you, and if you want to investigate, the party school is more efficient. Don't underestimate our party school. It's a place where talent gathers. Wei Ze gave Uncle En's ultimatum neither soft nor hard