Just the day before yesterday, a Japanese media said that it had received news from Ghibli insiders that Ghibli was about to disband. Everyone should have their own opinion on this, but leaving aside the authenticity of that message, it is also an indisputable fact that Ghibli has been going downhill in recent years. However, just as we were speculating about Ghibli's future holdings, one person seemed to have guessed a long time ago that Ghibli was about to break up. He is the animation giant Mamoru Oshii, who has directed many well-known works such as "Ghost in the Shell", "Peter Pan", and "Lucky Star Kid". Here's what he had to say about Ghibli in a 2012 interview with the media.

Reporter: What happened?

Mamoru Oshii: I'm going to have to repay the loan for the next 30 years, but I've noticed that my studio may not be able to sustain itself for 30 years...

Using a Ghibli analogy (the animation studio to which Miyazaki belongs), Miyazaki himself will never live another 30 years, but everyone knows that as soon as Miyazaki dies, Ghibli will be over. Even if he were alive, Ghibli would become a rights management company. So what will happen to those guys who are working at Ghibli now?

Reporter: Maybe you will move to another studio?

Mamoru Oshii: There are many artists in Ghibli who have been painting for five years or ten years but have never painted a human figure. They pour their passion into their own content, otherwise they would not have been able to make such a high quality. Only a very small number of people can draw people, and the others can only participate in other content.

But if it's an animator in another studio, it's not so idle. Because it is impossible to produce a work in two years like Ghibli, I will try my best to paint. This kind of person can often make do with anything, so he can eat anywhere. And in Ghibli, the good guys will be very good, but the guys at the bottom will have a hard time turning over.

Reporter: But Ghibli doesn't pay them according to the number of productions, but hires them as regular employees and pays them a high salary.

Mamoru Oshii: That's right. If Miyazaki were to die, then all of them would have been exiled to society and found themselves worthless. Even so, these animators still have a skill to eat, and those who say, "Bought a house that will be repaid for 30 years." The child was born. It will take more than 20 years for children to graduate from college", and so on, I'm afraid that they will really live on the streets.

Reporter: But if you want to say that, it's the same with ordinary clubs, right?

Mamoru Oshii: yes. People who are surprised by what I said may be more normal. "What will you become in the future?" I really want to pay tribute to those who say that, "Can you figure out how to control the future yourself?" ”

Reporter: Is it the right thing to do if you start thinking as early as possible?

Mamoru Oshii: Many people did so, but many more remained in the Ghibli organization. I've always felt that the members of the club are only protected by the name of the club, and they don't have the confidence to get ahead after they go out.

In my eyes, Ghibli is just a studio set up to "animate Hayao Miyazaki", and everyone has a very narrow scope. If Ghibli were out, they would be compared in an instant. Like a greenhouse with almost no weeds, Miyazaki is a fierce king of beasts, and the savannah was only artificially bred to create an environment for the king of beasts.

Reporter: What a popular analogy.

Mamoru Oshii: Toshio Suzuki has been reading dark books lately.

Reporter: In that case, that adult should have some responsibility (laughs).

Mamoru Oshii: That old guy made a good plan from the beginning to recruit people.