Xu Haodong faced Liu Junru's entanglement, and originally wanted to accept it when he saw it, but he thought that today's meeting was broadcast live, and as the saying goes, the head can be broken and blood can be shed, and the face of revolutionaries cannot be lost, so he must teach him a hard lesson.

"Dr. Liu, when making decisions, people need to take into account his identity and status, as well as the responsibilities he shoulders. For example, you and I, you are just a deputy mayor, you can invite Qiu Youke, Fang Licheng and Zheng Tengyu without thinking about the consequences. And I'm different, I'm the secretary of the municipal party committee, please Qiu Fangzheng and the three of you, I have to consider the political influence. ”

Liu Jun was angry, "Secretary Xu, today is a discussion of economic issues, and it has nothing to do with political issues, please don't go online." ”

Xu Haodong said unhurriedly: "Dr. Liu, don't forget that you are a party member, you must talk about party spirit, that is, you must talk about politics, and this is a necessary premise when making any decision." Marxist political economy tells us that economic problems are also political problems, and if you think you live in a vacuum, then I play the harp to the cow. ”

Without waiting for Liu Junru to open his mouth to refute, Xu Haodong continued: "Under the premise of the above musts, I generally consider these several issues in the process of making specific decisions on economic work. First, my decision-making is not in line with the overall plans and principles of the party and the state. Second, my decision-making formula does not meet the actual needs of Yunling City. Third, my decision-making is not in line with the wishes of the broad masses of the people. Fourth, my decision-making is not in line with the relevant laws of the state. Fifth, whether my decision can be realized, what is the probability of failure, and how to prevent the decision from failing. Sixth, what problems and difficulties will I encounter in the implementation of my decision-making, and what and how many plans I need to prepare in the process. 7. Is my decision outdated? Isn't it too ahead of its time? What are the negative effects of my decisions, and how can I effectively address them...... Dr. Liu, this is my Fang*, do you understand? ”

Liu Junru said: "I will do these too, please give an example." ”

Xu Haodong waved his hand, "There are three examples, the shantytown renovation project, the restart of the downtown square project, the development of the Dawan Islands and its surrounding waters, the decision-making process of these three projects, I have written a detailed article and published it on the government intranet. ”

Liu Junru said: "I must study carefully, Secretary Xu, I would like to know whether you have used Keynesian economics or neoliberal economics in the process of decision-making, and if so, whether you have used Keynesian economics more or neoliberal economics more." ”

Xu Haodong smiled and asked, "Dr. Liu, do you know how I distinguish economic researchers?" Note that the economics researchers I am talking about also include low-end enthusiasts like me. ”

"I don't know, I asked."

"There are five main categories of economic researchers. First, pure academic researchers, they focus on research, regardless of whether their research results are useful or not, they are typical academics. Second, communicators, like my father-in-law and mother-in-law, have their own theories, but they are limited to academics, they just pass on what they have learned to students, and they are not responsible for society. Third, the spokesperson of the interest group, Qiu Heke, Fang Licheng and Zheng Tengyu, are typical representatives of this category, they want both fame and fortune, just like this trip to Yunling, they offered 6 million yuan after tax, and they would not come without money. Fourth, the ambitious faction, for example, Dr. Liu, you are full of wealth, you are talented, and your politics obviously has a personal purpose, which is to promote the neoliberal economic theories you admire, and at the same time get the progress of your career, you want both fish and bear's paws. Fifth, the pragmatists, for example, I am barely one of the pragmatists, and strive to use their own strength to serve the people. ”

Xu Haodong was obviously praising himself and belittleing Liu, extremely arrogant, Liu Junru held back his anger and said: "Secretary Xu, don't say too noble about yourself, isn't your hard work for your own career?" ”

Xu Haodong shook his head and said: "No, I can be in politics, but I will not be obsessed with this black gauze hat on my head, I am quite proud of this, Dr. Liu, this is also the difference between me and you, I think about the problem is pure, and you think about the problem with a certain color." ”

"For example?"

"For example, if you believe in neoliberal economics, and you are obsessed, you always think about problems based on neoliberal economic theories, and you use neoliberal economics to explain and solve any problems or difficulties, you are too mechanical and too dogmatic. You are violating the basic principle that in the field of economics, no theory is always right, and no theory is immutable. ”

"What about you?"

"As for me, when I think about the economy, I never have preconceived notions, if I encounter a problem, I will use Keynesianism to solve it, if Keynesianism cannot solve it, I will use neoliberalism to solve it, and sometimes, I will use Keynesianism and neoliberalism at the same time. That is to say, I never use Keynesianism or neoliberalism as a guiding ideology, they are only means, just tools or methods to solve problems. Just like in the process of learning a language, the dictionary is just a tool, just like the key when we open the door, the key is the most important thing is just a tool, and the question of deciding whether to enter the door or not depends on whether you have a key or not. ”

Liu Junru paused slightly, because what Xu Haodong said was right, Keynesian economics or neoliberal economics is indeed a tool to solve economic problems, at most it is only a method, in the palace of economics, there are many theories, and in the face of the real world, no theory is omnipotent.

Xu Haodong began to chase after the victory, "Dr. Liu, let me give you another analogy, Keynesian economics is my right hand, and neoliberal economics is my left hand. When to use the right hand, when to use the left hand, when to use the right hand and left hand at all, and when to use the right hand and left hand at the same time, it depends on my mind, and it depends on the research, research, analysis and judgment. ”

"Dr. Liu, I suggest that you have time to read my graduation thesis, entitled "Equilibrium Dynamic Analysis in Economic Behavior and Its Prediction and Mathematical Models and Applications", the full text of which is 83,311 words. In my dissertation, I have articulated the idea that the world is changing, and so are the markets, that is, the markets are always imperfect. The imperfect market is not omnipotent, it needs the government's attention and intervention at any time, as for how to intervene and how much to intervene, this requires us to pay attention to equilibrium and maintain dynamic equilibrium. On how to maintain the dynamic equilibrium of the economy, here I will teach you a trick, forecasting, scientific forecasting. ”

"Dr. Liu, you are a great believer in neoliberalism, and I will defend your faith to the death, but you cannot ignore the harm that neoliberalism has done to our country. Your blind clamor has affected the current government's abandonment of regulation and support in many fields, resulting in disparity between the rich and the poor, environmental pollution, food fraud, lack of corporate innovation, falling into the debt chain, real estate has soared for many years, attracting many speculative funds to cause high real estate prices to dammed the lake, and economic data continues to create new lows......"

"Dr. Liu, the marketization and privatization you advocated, especially the privatization of land and railways, and the pseudo-monetary economics of Friedman, the use of tight money and fiscal austerity to freeze enterprises, are the main reasons for China's current economic predicament."

Dr. Liu, market competition is often unbalanced, that is, imbalance is a normal state of market competition. If we do not take into account the imbalance of market competition, but use a set of theories based on the equilibrium of market competition, for example, the theory of perfect competition based on the equilibrium of market competition as a guide, people will find a large number of situations that do not correspond to the theoretical predictions at all: for example, why does the disparity between the rich and the poor need government regulation, why do enterprises need government support, and why does the government do addition, but not just subtraction? ”

"Dr. Liu, from an economic point of view, market competition is often unbalanced, and the government needs to intervene to maintain the equilibrium of the market. For example, environmental pollution and food fraud have many reasons for these problems, such as the lack of a legal system, such as the lack of a credit system, but the lack of government regulation is also an important reason. ”

"Dr. Liu, why are there so many small and medium-sized enterprises in spite of environmental pollution and discharge pollution to the atmosphere, groundwater, soil, because the competition between these enterprises and large enterprises is unbalanced, large enterprises have scale advantages, and the cost of sewage discharge of large enterprises is much smaller than that of small enterprises compared to their production scale, so if small enterprises are also equipped with pollution cleaning equipment like large enterprises, and clean up pollution in accordance with regulations, then these enterprises that are too small will be completely unable to compete with large enterprises. It will be completely at a serious disadvantage in the uneven market competition, so so many small and medium-sized enterprises ignore national regulations, ignore public opinion, and disregard their conscience to condemn that they do not purchase pollution cleaning facilities, even if they purchase pollution cleaning facilities because of the requirements of the environmental protection department, they will not be turned on. ”

"Dr. Liu, you have also called for the abolition of the Ministry of Science and Technology, which is a big mistake. From the point of view of economics, because market competition is unbalanced, if the enterprises in China's emerging traditional industries want to be transformed into high-tech enterprises, in the early stage of starting a business, there will inevitably be an imbalance in competition with the high-tech enterprises in developed countries, so they are at a serious disadvantage in market competition, and it is difficult to complete the technological leap. The government of any country will help its enterprises to complete the technological leap, even the United States government, which was once the most technologically developed, in the 80s when its electronics industry encountered serious competition from Japan, the government also gave considerable support to its enterprises, and many enterprises in the United States signed technology development contracts with the government and enterprises, and the government allocated funds in accordance with the contract when the enterprises completed the technology research and development. ”

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"Wow......" Liu Junru suddenly spurted blood from his mouth, like a rainbow in the air.

The meeting ended abruptly because Deputy Mayor Liu Junru was angry.