Liu Junru's face is very ugly, because Xu Haodong is criticizing Qiu Youke, which is equivalent to criticizing him. Qiu Youke, Fang Licheng and Zheng Tengyu were invited by him, and he couldn't control them if they violated the criminal law, but Xu Haodong criticized neoliberal economics, and he had something to say and something to say.

"Secretary Xu, I know that today's meeting is live broadcast, can I ask you a few questions?"

Xu Haodong bowed slightly, "Of course you can." ”

Liu Junru went straight to the point, "Are you an economist?" Do you have your own economic theories or perspectives? How would you rate your achievements in economics? ”

Xu Haodong smiled and shook his head, "Of course I'm not an economist, I've said many times that I'm just an economics enthusiast." Because I am only an economics enthusiast, I have no theories or opinions of my own, let alone any attainments. Let's put it this way, if economics is a temple, I am standing at the door of this hall, with one foot outside the door and one foot in the door, and I am looking around the hall. ”

"Do you think you are qualified to comment or rate an economist or neoliberal economics?"

"First of all, let me correct you, Qiu Youke is not an economist, he is just an economics enthusiast. Secondly, an economics enthusiast is certainly qualified to comment or rate an economics enthusiast. Also, aficionados of economics are not only qualified to comment on or evaluate economists or neoliberal economics. In addition, from the perspective of the principle of fairness, a layman is also qualified to comment or evaluate any economic theory. ”

"You're not a neoliberal, so are you a Keynesian?"

Xu Haodong smiled lightly, "Vice Mayor Liu, I am very embarrassed to ask this question of yours. Because I studied at a normal college, and later, for personal purposes, I studied for another year to get a bachelor's degree. So in my four years of college, although I majored in economics, I mainly studied to prepare for becoming a teacher, and I learned pedagogy, educational economics, philosophy, logic, etc., quite well. But I had average grades in economics, and I spent my spare time in economics just to please my girlfriend's parents. ”

The attendees chuckled.

But Liu Junru still had to ask, "Secretary Xu, you didn't answer my question positively." ”

Xu Haodong smiled and said, "I'm sorry, I'll tell you the truth, my father-in-law and mother-in-law are my girlfriend's parents, and they happen to be my college teachers." At the same time, they all happen to teach economics, but the problem is that my father-in-law advocated macroeconomics, which is Keynesianism, and my mother-in-law promoted microeconomics, which is neoliberalism. What do you say I should do? I had to study both Keynesian and neoliberal economics. As a result, I am a proponent of macroeconomics and microeconomics, but I also have reservations about both Keynesianism and neoliberalism. ”

"Can you tell us about your graduation thesis?"

"Don't laugh, the title of my dissertation when I graduated from university was "Equilibrium Dynamic Analysis in Economic Behavior and Its Prediction and Mathematical Model and Application", the full text is 83,311 words, I will not elaborate on the content, you can go to the website of Dongjiang Normal University to inquire. My paper has been published in China and reprinted by 19 domestic magazines and 11 foreign magazines. ”

Liu Junru was stunned for a moment, he really didn't expect that Xu Haodong still had such a hand, and now it is a live broadcast to the outside world, and people all over the world can see it, Xu Haodong must be true. On this basis, Liu Junru sighed to himself, he has a dignified doctorate in economics, and he has studied abroad, but so far, he has only published papers in university academic journals.

"Secretary Xu, since you have such achievements in your studies, it must be natural and natural to study abroad for a master's and doctoral degree, so why don't you continue to study?"

Still unwilling to believe it all, Xu Haodong had to tell the truth, "Three reasons, one is that I don't want to be a nerd who talks on paper, and the other is that my girlfriend is not in good health, and I want to join the work as soon as possible so that I can take care of her." But the most important thing is three, my family's financial situation at that time was debt, so between continuing my studies and helping my family, I chose the latter. ”

Liu Junru said: "I'm sorry, Secretary Xu, but I still want to continue to ask for advice, because I want to make sure that you are not as you said, you have stood on the threshold of the temple of economics, that is, whether you are qualified to judge others." ”

Xu Haodong looked at the participants and glanced at Li Jiguo, "Do you agree?" ”

Li Jiguo said loudly: "Agreed." And applauded vigorously.

The participants agreed with a round of applause.

Xu Haodong said "Thank you, comrades" and made a gesture of invitation to Liu Junru, "Dr. Liu, I am very honored, but I have a request, don't talk about theoretical issues." You and I are both politicians, serving as an official for one term and benefiting one party, please contact the actual to talk about the economy. ”

"Secretary Xu, I know that you have made outstanding achievements in practical work, you became the deputy mayor at the beginning of 2008, and the global economic crisis broke out at the end of 2008. But Yunling City is a standout, did not suffer much impact, according to many small and medium-sized entrepreneurs, you have made great contributions to it, can you tell me what you thought at the time? ”

Xu Haodong said: "Very simply, there was a huge investment plan at that time, which was an act of the government, the purpose of which was to use investment to stimulate domestic demand. However, the situation of Yunling City is special, there is capital to invest but nowhere to invest, speculating in houses, coal mines, and stocks is not an effective way to avoid risks, so I called on everyone not to act rashly, if you really want to move, you can buy some gold to preserve its value. ”

"You support government intervention in the market, but you don't do it, which means you're both Keynesian and neoliberal at the same time," Liu said. ”

Xu Haodong shook his head and said, "I repeat, I am neither a Keynesian nor a neoliberal. If you have to ask me to take a stand, I can tell you that I am an idealist and at work I am a realist. ”

Liu Junru did not relent, "Then I have to ask for advice, what is your guiding ideology in your specific economic work?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "Seek truth from facts, proceed from reality, and analyze specific situations. For example, when it comes to attracting investment, Yunling City's private capital is as high as more than 220 billion yuan, not including foreign businessmen and the top 500 companies, that is to say, Yunling City has completed the original accumulation of capital and has enough funds to support the economy and development of Yunling City. In this case, not only is it not necessary to attract investment, but also capital should be exported. Dr. Liu, this is to proceed from reality in everything, and this is my guiding ideology in economic work. ”

Liu Junru continued to entangle, "Secretary Xu, I'm talking about Fang*, I mean, how do you plan your specific economic work?" ”