Xu Haodong said: "So far, we have one trick that is about to be implemented, which I call the family embalming law. In my spare time, I have studied the corruption process of many cadres, and quite a few of them started with the corruption of their family members. The most typical is Zhuang Zida, the former secretary of the Yunling Municipal Party Committee, who was once a good cadre, but he kept himself, but he failed to let his wife and son keep it, and his degeneration started with his wife and son. ”

Maria said: "Your Commission for Discipline Inspection is very open, I have the honor to read the case file about this Zhuang Zida, and you are not wrong at all. ”

Xu Haodong said: "So we have this idea, with the Discipline Inspection Commission and the Organization Department taking the lead, and the Women's Federation taking the lead, giving play to the role of women comrades, and setting up a department without establishment to deal with the families of cadres. This department can regularly deal with the families of cadres, on the one hand, to promote the anti-corruption of cadres' families, and on the other hand, to promote the anti-corruption of cadres through the families of cadres. ”

Maria said: "Secretary Xu, you generally don't say your thoughts easily, you must have experimented." ”

Xu Haodong said: "I have had a personal experience of this, and it has been fruitful. When I changed from a teacher to a civil servant, the Organization Department sent a deputy minister to talk to me, who is now Xia Fulin, vice chairman of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference. Minister Xia was very interesting, not in the office, but in my home, in front of my parents and my sister, saying that being a civil servant was like going to hell, talking about corruption and so on. My father later told me that he was terrified when he heard it, and since then, my father has often nagged at me, and this is also true of reason, as long as I talk on the phone, almost all my father says is anti-corruption and anti-corruption, which makes him sound like a leader of the discipline inspection commission at a higher level, and he rings the alarm bell for a long time to me. Not to mention, this trick was very effective, especially when I first started as a cadre, whenever someone gave me a gift, I immediately remembered the teachings of my father and Xia Fulin. ”

Maria said: "I understand, in the words of you Chinese, you want to concoct it in the same way." ”

Xu Haodong said: "Yes, I have already concocted the same method in the secretary section of the municipal party committee office and the inspectorate office of the municipal party committee, and all the family members of the new civil servants and new cadres are present at the pre-appointment talk, and the main content is the anti-corruption and anti-corruption class, and we are allowed to talk once a year." Of course, it remains to be seen what the actual effect will be, and the specific measures will be continuously improved. ”

"It's like a patient's pre-operative conversation, where all the family members are present, and all the hospitals in the world do that," Maria said. ”

Xu Haodong said: "Miss Maria, about anti-corruption and anti-embalming, about treating both the symptoms and the root causes, I can only say so much at present. ”

Maria said, "Okay, let's change the subject, there are rave reviews of you online, but do you know of the negative comments about you online? ”

Xu Haodong said: "There must be negative comments, I don't have time to pay attention to them, but there must be one in our city's public opinion center, maybe those boys are embarrassed to tell me." ”

Maria said: "I can tell you that the negative comments about you online are mainly focused on one aspect. You studied economics and became famous for being good at doing economics, but since you took office as secretary of the municipal party committee, you have only focused on anti-corruption and ignored the economy, so the cadres and people of Yunling City have criticized you a lot. ”

Xu Haodong said: "I have realized that I am not ignorant of the economy, but I am still looking for a prescription to revive the economy of Yunling. On the other hand, I am now the secretary of the municipal party committee, and there is a difference between the party and the government, so I can manage the overall plan and policy of economic development, but I cannot directly manage economic affairs. It's my duty to prescribe medicine, it's not my duty to implement it, so I have to be cautious, and now I only have rough ideas. ”

Maria said, "Can you tell us your rough thoughts?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "Yunling City is a special county-level economy, which cannot be compared with the special zone, the provincial capital, and some prefecture-level cities. However, the development of Yunling City started early, relying on overseas Chinese from Yunling, and it is the first county-level city in the country to open up to the outside world. According to the general law of capital, our city in Yunling has completed the stage of primitive accumulation of capital, and it is at least eight years ahead of the national average. More importantly, the government of Yunling City is rich, and the people are richer than the government, and the gap between the rich and the poor is the smallest. To sum up, we cannot make big moves in the economic adjustment of our Yunling City, and we don't need to make big moves. ”

Maria said, "However, I have seen the economic data you have released, and it seems that there has been a big regression. ”

Xu Haodong said: "That's because my predecessors, in order to create political achievements, deceived the upper and lower to make a lot of fake data, what we are doing now is to set things right, get to the root of the problem, and make the real data public." ”

Maria said: "I understand, then tell me whether the economy of your Yunling City is in recession." ”

Xu Haodong said: "In this way, I will provide a few data, I guarantee that it is true, you can judge yourself based on these data." First, electricity consumption increased by 7.9 percent in the first eight months of this year over the same period last year. Second, the total retail sales of goods increased by 9.3 percent in the first seven months of this year over the same period last year. Third, the number of migrant workers increased by 5.1 percent in the first 10 months of this year over the same period last year. Fourth, the number of newly employed people increased by 6.5 percent in the first nine months of this year over the same period last year. ”

Maria said: "You mean, the economy of your Yunling City is actually stable and rising? ”

Xu Haodong said: "Yes, Miss Maria, I heard that you went to the street to buy vegetables and cook by yourself during our time in Yunling City, do you feel that prices have risen?" ”

"No, prices fluctuate, but basically they don't go up," Maria said. ”

Xu Haodong said: "So, the economic development of our Yunling City is good, since it is good, it is reasonable, why bother to make a big deal again." ”

Maria said: "Secretary Xu, I have the honor to see your speech at the cadre conference, you mentioned the new economic growth point in your speech, where are the new economic growth points you mentioned?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "Agriculture, and green agriculture, is a new economic growth point in Yunling City. Yunling City used to be a large agricultural county, but now there are more than 1.1 million mu of paddy fields, more than 300,000 mu of arable land, and more than 500,000 mu of tidal flats. However, for decades, we have been emphasizing industry over agriculture and have hardly paid attention to agriculture, and we will pay attention to agriculture again. I have made a statistic that in the next 10 to 20 years, the world's trade in agricultural products will increase by two to three times, especially green agricultural products will quadruple. As long as we in Yunling City seize this opportunity, our economic development will definitely leap to a new level. ”

Maria said: "Is there a specific implementation plan? ”

Xu Haodong said: "Yes, but it is not mature, (haha) Besides, this is our secret, I will not tell a foreigner." ”

Maria said, "(giggles) Secretary Xu, you are still very cunning." ”

Xu Haodong said: "(Haha) This is a live broadcast to the world, I can't tell all my hole cards." ”

Maria said: "Secretary Xu, at the end of the interview, can I ask a few personal questions? ”

Xu Haodong said: "This is okay, I will never use the word no comment. ”

Maria said: "Secretary Xu, you are only thirty-five years old, and it has been three and a half years since your wife died. ”

Xu Haodong said: "No, it is true. ”

Maria said, "Don't you want to have women? ”

Xu Haodong said: "I think, sometimes I think very, very much, but whenever I think about women, I always think of my wife, I feel sorry for her, so my desire for women has faded." In addition, in the past few years, I have been under a lot of pressure in my personal development, my career has changed, I am walking on thin ice, and my thoughts about women are even lighter. ”

Maria said, "You're definitely going to get married, right?" Who will she be? Is it your sister-in-law? ”

Xu Haodong said: "(haha) marriage is for sure, but your question is a little sensitive, because I estimate that my sister-in-law is also watching your interview, I said I like her, she will be proud, inch by inch, I said I don't like her, she will be angry, and even tear down my house." Miss Maria, my sister-in-law is a 5th degree black belt in taekwondo, I can't beat her, you know. ”

Maria said: "(giggles) Then change the question, it is a quick answer, if you have to choose again, do you want to be a teacher or do you want to go into politics?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "Be a teacher." ”

Maria said: "If you were in politics all your life, what heights would you like to be able to reach? ”

Xu Haodong said: "I am short-sighted, I only want to see what is in front of me, and now I am at the level of the department, so I hope that I can reach the height of the deputy department level." ”

Maria said: "What do you think about patriotism? ”

Xu Haodong said: "Only traitors are not patriotic. ”

"Do you share universal values? ”

Xu Haodong said: "There has never been any universal value, the world is rich and colorful, and no one value can suit all countries. ”

Maria said: "What do you think of those elites and their rhetoric? ”

Xu Haodong said: "A group of sanctimonious guys, serious nonsense. ”

Maria said: "Some people say that elites can govern the country, do you agree? ”

Xu Haodong said: "If you don't agree, the elite can participate in politics, but the elite can't govern, otherwise the country will not be a country." ”

Maria said: "What do you think about democracy? ”

Xu Haodong said: "There is no real democracy in the world so far. ”

Maria said, "Isn't America democratic? ”

Xu Haodong said: "Let me ask you, did the American people vote to attack Iraq? If not, that means the United States is not democratic. ”

Maria said, "Do you agree with Taoguang to keep obscurity?" ”

Xu Haodong said: "I agreed in the past, but now I dare not agree." ”

Maria said: "What do you think of Sino-Japanese relations? ”

Xu Haodong said: "If there is another Sino-Japanese war, Japan will surely perish, because China will destroy it with all its might." ”

Maria said: "What do you think about the relationship between China and the United States? ”

Xu Haodong said: "Our founding leader said that US imperialism is a paper tiger. ”

Maria said: "What do you think of Sino-Russian relations? ”

Xu Haodong said: "Comrade Lenin said that forgetting history means betrayal. ”

Maria said: "Thank you Secretary Xu, thank you for accepting my interview, my last question is, is it time to eat?" ”