Acting Mayor Li Jiguo was obviously unhappy with Vice Mayor Liu Junru, "Why are you opposed", this is a problem in itself, since it is to solicit everyone's opinions, of course you can express your opposition, and there is no need to give reasons.

Li Jiguo couldn't speak well, and this weakness came out without warning, making the atmosphere in the conference room suddenly sensitive.

Xu Haodong smiled slightly, and resolved this embarrassing situation in time, "Comrade Jiguo, there is something wrong with what you said, any participant can express support or opposition and abstain from voting on any topic of the meeting, without giving any reason, this is the rule." ”

Li Jiguo pondered for a while, and also felt that he was too blunt, "I'm sorry, Comrade Junru, I apologize to you." ”

Politely polite, Liu Jun hurriedly said: "It's okay, Mayor Li, what I said didn't make the problem clear." ”

Liu Junru is a cadre who has just been transferred, and he is a well-known "economist", Xu Haodong also has to give him some face, "Comrade Junru, you go on." ”

"Secretary Haodong, Mayor Jiguo, I mean that the downtown plaza project should not be restarted, but should be abolished. My reason is that this project does not take into account the long-term development, about the city center square project, I have done a little understanding after coming to Yunling, I know that it has two main functions, the ground is commercial, shopping, leisure, etc., and the underground is the parking lot and transportation hub. I think we can maintain the commercial, shopping, leisure and other functions on the ground, and build rail transit in the underground part, that is, the subway, to solve the urban traffic problem in the next 50 or even 100 years. ”

Xu Haodong was happy in his heart, this guy is worthy of being sent from above, and he has a big heart, and he called for the construction of a subway in Yunling City at the "Economic Development Forum" last time, and today he actually moved to the municipal party and government joint meeting.

But Xu Haodong didn't want to retort right away, he wanted to see how others reacted.

Others generally do not react, and if they do, they will not react immediately, it should be Li Jiguo and Kong Zhenghao who are the first to react, because they are the first and second in command of the city government.

Sure enough, Kong Zhenghao smiled and said: "Comrade Junru, Yunling City is building a subway, and your topic is a bit big." ”

Li Jiguo said bluntly, "Comrade Junru, your idea is good, but it is unrealistic, Yunling is a county-level city, and it may become a prefecture-level city in the future, but to build a subway, I don't see at least this need in 50 years." ”

But Liu Junru seemed confident, "Leaders, I am not thinking out of thin air, my ideas are based on them." The first is the scale of the economy, the second is the financial capacity, the third is the size of the population, the fourth is the long-term development prospect, and the fifth is to create new economic growth points. These five indicators or factors all determine that Yunling needs to add a new form of transportation, subway, which may not be needed in five years, but will definitely be needed in ten or twenty years. Since we need it in ten or twenty years, why don't we build it in advance? The cost of building in advance is always more cost-effective than building later, right? ”

Vice Mayor Chen Xiujie said: "Vice Mayor Liu, the cost of early construction is not necessarily more cost-effective than later construction. ”

Liu Junru took out a copy of the information and handed it to Kong Zhenghao, "This is my preliminary idea for the construction of the subway in Yunling City, and there is an explanation of the cost on the second page." According to my calculations, it will take about 800 million yuan to build a kilometer of subway now, and the cost of building a subway in 10 years will be at least 1.5 billion yuan. In addition, the current economic situation is a bit grim, and the urgent need for new economic growth points, and the construction of the subway is the best economic growth point, according to the judgment of experts, each kilometer of subway, the investment is 800 million, but it can bring more than 2 billion output. ”

Li Jiguo said: "Yunling City is a relatively developed third- and fourth-tier city, but the actual debt of the city is more than 3 billion, and the cumulative debt of each township and street has reached more than 3 billion. How many kilometers of subway are you going to build? How many years do you plan to finish? Where does this money come from? ”

A series of three questions did not stump Liu Junru, "In my plan, the first phase of the subway has two north-south and three east-west directions, with a total length of 125 kilometers. According to the current cost, the cost of the first phase of the subway is 800 million yuan per kilometer, with a total investment of 100 billion yuan, which will be completed in 15 years, with an annual investment of about 8 billion yuan. As for the source of funds, I think there are three main channels: First, the land transfer fund in the municipal treasury can be 1.5 billion yuan per year. Second, bank loans, 2.5 billion yuan of loans to banks every year. Third, the remaining 4 billion yuan can attract investment from private entrepreneurs. ”

Li Jiguo smiled bitterly, "Comrade Junru, I really have nothing to say, your plan is too grand." ”

Kong Zhenghao also shook his head again and again, "Ants eat elephants, it is conceivable, but it is impossible to achieve." ”

Liu Junru looked at Xu Haodong, "Secretary Xu, what is your opinion?" ”

"I'll talk about my personal opinion." Xu Haodong said unhurriedly: "Let's talk about the number of private cars in our Yunling City, according to incomplete statistics, the number of cars in our Yunling City is nearly 950,000, of which about 700,000 are private cars, which is equivalent to one car for every three permanent residents. In other words, it is equivalent to a family owning 0.85 cars, which leads to another statistic: 70% of trips are made by private cars, another 13% by public transport, and 12% by taxis. In addition, according to the analysis of relevant experts, in the next 10 years, the number of private cars in Yunling City will reach 1.1 million, so at least in the foreseeable 10 to 20 years, travel will be dominated by private cars, and the subway will not play much of a role. ”

"The necessity of a subway can be estimated from the degree of population concentration. According to the current consensus, a city with a permanent population of one million people in the urban area can consider building a subway. In the case of Yunling City, the permanent population of the urban area is 557,000, and the non-resident population is 233,000. But more importantly, in order to build a subway in a city with a permanent population of one million and make it profitable, there are two more requirements in terms of population requirements, 500,000 floating population and 1.5 million suburban population, and our Yunling City cannot meet these two requirements, and it may not be able to meet them within 10 to 20 years. ”

"Regarding the cost of subway construction, Junru is right, 800 million per kilometer now, and 1500 million per kilometer in ten years. However, Comrade Junru did not calculate one point, and now he has invested 800 million yuan, and he will need to repay 150 million yuan in principal and interest in 10 years. Also, we don't need the subway in Yunling City at present, and the subway will definitely be in a state of loss after it is completed, so the depreciation cost plus the loss, even if it is 30 to 40 million per year, it will take 300 million or 400 million yuan in ten years. So, from an economic point of view, the cost of building a subway now is almost the same as building a subway in 10 years. ”

"On the issue of the financial burden of subway construction, Comrade Junru may not know that from next year, the income from land transfer will be officially included in the financial budget, so it is almost impossible to take out the income from land transfer money to build a subway alone. As for the city's financial budget, the higher authorities are strictly controlling the expenditure of debts, and such a huge investment as the construction of the subway, with a cumulative debt of tens of billions of yuan in 10 years, is almost unimaginable. ”

"Regarding the new growth point of the economy, using the construction of the subway to drive economic development is actually using huge investment to stimulate economic growth, which is not suitable in our Yunling City. After more than 30 years of development, Yunling City's economy has been in a state of saturation, and the next step of development is mainly export and consumption, adjustment of industrial structure, product upgrading and technological innovation. If we have to say that the new growth point, the central square project is counted as one, and the stalls of 1.8 square kilometers are resting in the center of the city, and we can't get around it if we want to. ”

After a pause, Xu Haodong said: "All in all, Comrade Junru's wish is good, but it does not conform to reality, my personal opinion is that the subway project can be discussed, and the downtown square project can be carried out now." ”

Xu Haodong said this, it is reasonable and well-founded, and he is the number one, if Liu Junru is not good to say it, others will not have opinions.

However, Liu Junru still has something to say, "Mayor Jiguo, Vice Mayor Kong, you have made changes to the downtown plaza project you just mentioned, in my understanding, is it equivalent to excluding investors from the downtown plaza project?" ”

Kong Zhenghao said: "This is a new attempt in the way of investment, the main purpose is to play the role of private funds, but also to preserve the wealth of ordinary people. In the words of Secretary Haodong, this is an economic issue, but also a political issue, and it is the best embodiment of governing for the people and putting the people first. ”

Liu Junru turned to Xu Haodong and asked, "Secretary Xu, is this your opinion?" ”

Xu Haodong nodded and said, "Yes, it is also my common idea with Comrade Jiguo and Comrade Zhenghao. ”

Liu Junru said: "Secretary Xu, I personally believe that the exclusion of investors is not in line with the objective economic law, our Yunling City has introduced as much as 33 billion US dollars of foreign investment in recent years, and the investment of entrepreneurs from all over the country in our Yunling City has also reached nearly 100 billion yuan. In this sense, our Yunling City has been developed by relying on foreign capital, and now that capital is excluded, how will we develop in the future? Isn't it contrary to the laws of the economy that the capital is offended by not using capital in the era of capital? ”

Li Jiguo said with a smile: "Okay, okay, in the two sets of teams in our city, Comrade Junru is an economist, Secretary Haodong is also an economist, and we are all laymen in the economy. Secretary Haodong, Comrade Junru has challenged you and expressed your high opinions, and we are waiting for you to express your high opinions. ”

This Li Jiguo, seeing the excitement is not a big deal, Xu Haodong smiled, waved his hand and said: "I am not an economist, but I can try to discuss with Comrade Junru, I think so, let's start with the word capital." ”