175 Do you only give good things to your own family?
So after everyone was silent for a few seconds, many of them suddenly laughed inexplicably.
A few of them looked at each other, and then laughed and said, "What's wrong with us?" Why is the topic getting farther and farther away?
"yes, that's weird, what were we talking about?"
Someone in the crowd asked.
"Sure enough, it's getting farther and farther, and the topic just now is the pursuit of profit by capital?"
"No, no, it seems to be talking about the issue of double standards both externally and internally."
At this time, another group of people complained:
"Okay, okay, what's there to fight about? You haven't crossed over to the pinnacle of life, how can you talk too much? ”
"Even if it's so! That's it, and it's not too late to say anything about double standards when we can set standards for the whole world! ”
"That's it! I didn't have a word of it! You are not afraid to say big things and flash your tongues! ”
"yes, I don't think there's any point in arguing."
"You can't say that, the exchange of ideas is always meaningful!"
The other group was clearly not convinced and began to refute.
"It should be meaningful, because our group of people all have their own three views, and now we are gathered together to do a great cause, if we don't exchange ideas and reach some minimum concept consensus, how can we cooperate in the future?"
At this time, Zhu Beiguo said faintly beside him.
"Makes sense!"
"Brother Zhu Gaojian!"
"Everyone, everyone! Everyone, be quiet! I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding of this Convention, but let's be honest, this Convention can only bind us! ”
At this time, Sun Lao said in a light tone, the voice was not loud, but everyone instantly quieted down, and the people who were still arguing fiercely just now suddenly stopped talking after hearing Sun Lao's words, and some of them scratched their heads and laughed.
"That's right, this "Red Chamber Convention" is actually our internal convention!"
"Yes, the purpose of the Convention is to maintain harmony within us and to protect our own equal rights!"
"Attention, and our children and grandchildren!"
At this time, someone reminded with a serious face.
"Yes, this convention only defines the rights and obligations of each of us, because we are the signatories! If you don't sign it, of course, you won't be protected by the Convention! ”
"It makes sense, who said that the Red Chamber Convention should be extended to people all over the world?"
Lao Ba shouted loudly with his eyes wide open at this time, which immediately aroused the echo of some people:
"What Ba Lao said makes sense, it is true, according to the concept of people in the seventeenth century, it is impossible to insist on practicing the convention!"
"That's right, since no one in this era will understand the meaning behind this convention, of course, we can't insist on using the convention to restrain our foreign behavior!"
"The question is, what if someone is willing to accept our philosophy and abide by it?"
At this time, someone in the group of ladies suddenly asked. However, this remark immediately triggered some disapproving responses:
"Sister, at that time, Voltaire and Rousseau had not yet been born!"
"The problem is that in a dozen British colonies in North America, there was indeed a group of people in that era who were practicing the spirit of this convention!"
The ladies immediately retorted. But it caused more complaints:
"So what? The conventions of others are also only internal and not external, just look at the fate of the Indians......"
"The Indians and the colonists did have a friendly honeymoon period, but in the end they fought because of differences in interests and ideas, and in short, the contradictions between the two sides intensified as time went on. It can be seen that the Mayflower Convention is only internal, and cannot eliminate external contradictions......"
"I think it's due to the difference in civilization, knowing that the wars between the Indians were more frequent and cruel than the wars between them and the colonists! Nor did the Indian society understand the Mayflower Convention at all, and therefore those who made it did not end up treating the Indians as civilized. ”
"But don't forget, civilization is not the same definition!"
"Freedom and equality plus human rights are the signs of civilization, by the way, Sister Nicole said, the progress of wisdom and morality is called civilization, do you think there are these things in the indigenous civilizations that kill people and sacrifice to the gods?"
At this time, someone retorted fiercely.
"Is there one?"
"There should be no ......"
"But after all, those are some kind of civilization, right?"
"Do you have any misunderstanding of the word civilization?"
"If you want me to say, for those tribesmen who can sacrifice the heads of living people to the gods to celebrate victory, and sacrifice the blood of captives to the harvest, they have nothing to do with civilization at all!"
"Well, it's a bit far from civilization, isn't it?"
"Cut! I can't tell you, civility is not just civility and politeness! You're the ones who really misunderstand the word civilization, right? ”
"Okay, let's take a step back and say, those are also some kind of civilization, but civilizations are advanced and backward, there are civilizations and barbarism, this is a good statement, right? Tell me which is more advanced and civilized, the group of people who signed the Mayflower Convention, or the tribesmen who sacrificed the living? ”
Everyone: "......"
However, when these people were arguing fiercely, there was a group of silent majorities watching from the sidelines, and these people were a little inexplicable in the face of the sudden controversy.
So soon someone loudly accused:
"Hey! Are you addicted to crooked buildings? ”
"I'm away from you again!"
However, at this time, Li Junming and Barrister Li leaned back in his chair, turned his head and smiled at the person next to him:
"Actually, they didn't go very far, they just didn't understand the meaning behind these arguments."
"What does that mean?"
"Brother Li has a high opinion?"
Li Junming saw that many people were asking questions to him, so he sat up straight and said:
"Ladies and gentlemen, we have crossed over to that place, although there are no natives, but sooner or later we will have to land on that continent, where there are millions of natives!"
"yes, so what?"
"The focus of their argument is actually how to deal with the unflowering natives, whether to fight, pull, suppress, or caress ......."
Well, this is a practical issue that can be discussed, and everyone nodded frequently after hearing this, and then someone immediately said solemnly:
"Crack! To deal with barbarians is to use barbaric methods! ”
"Fu! For humanitarian reasons, after all, it is human! ”
"Suppress and soothe!"
So the crowd began to debate the topic again:
"Anyway, if we build a country, our citizens must be protected by this convention!"
"Hehe, are the natives also citizens? How to write the word citizen, do these people know? ”
Someone in the crowd immediately sneered.
"Only Han Chinese immigrants are our true nationals!"
"Hey! Brother, please remove the words 'only Han Chinese', otherwise you will be a racist! We should not tolerate racist ideas! ”
Someone in the audience immediately stood up and shouted a loud accusatory.
"Okay, you're right, for example, I, maybe the girl I bought is not a Han girl, but after all, we are in a nest, we can't let our wife be wronged as a second-class citizen, otherwise I'm still a man?"
It was Wei Dongli who said this.
"Hmph, that's a bit of a conscience."
At this time, there was a cold response from the group of women, but the voice was so cold that people couldn't help but shiver.
At this time, someone said:
"If it's a native, the premise is that you can be naturalized, and you can also become a citizen, right?"
"Of course! As long as they are naturalized, they are their own people, and the people of their own country must be protected by the Convention, and the bottom line of a civilized country is to treat their own citizens well, which is the bottom line of civilization! But outsiders...... It depends......"
"Yes!"
"It should."
This person's proposal was immediately responded to positively by many people, and apparently this inspired everyone's thinking, and someone immediately proposed:
"We must not build an industrial revolution version of the Qing Empire, and it is a dead end to give away friends to domestic slaves!"
"That's right, there is definitely no distinction between banner men and Han people in the country we have established!"
"There should be no difference in status, everyone is an equal citizen!"
"That's right! The twenty-four word mantra is our motto! ”
Everyone couldn't help but nod their heads again and again when they said this, and even a little excited.
"Well, that's not necessarily the case in practice!"
"Yes, it's hard to say what kind of system we really want to build in the future......
Some people are skeptical of the positive energy statement just now.
"China has been handed down to the world with an agricultural civilization, which is characterized by defending the land, being conservative, lacking the pioneering spirit, and lacking the spirit of contract and equality in the maritime commercial civilization!"
At this time, someone threw out the argument that a person might blow up people's nests.
"That's right, I also worship ancestors, worship experience, obey elders, obey authority, and are used to dividing myself into three, six, nine and so on, and I will consciously sit in the right seat!"
"And the more at the bottom, the more enthusiastic this stratification is, and the more ubiquitous the chain of contempt, no way, the thousand-year-old imperial autocracy, dividing people into hierarchies is a cultural gene that goes deep into the bone marrow! If you suddenly add freedom, equality, human rights or something to this group of people, you will definitely not be able to adapt to the soil! ”
Apparently there were still different voices in the crowd.
"Yes, I face a group of people who are used to kneeling, and sometimes I don't bother to pull these people up and sit on an equal footing with me, no way, in short, I can't do it!"
"What do you mean that you are too lazy to pull people up, it is obviously driven by interests that make you unwilling to pull others!"
"I may be willing to pull a hand, but it's hard for my children and grandchildren to say."
"People are willing to kneel, people feel so secure, don't accept you to bite him?"
Well, looking at this stance, the two sides are going to quarrel again.
"Don't be too pessimistic, the so-called Chinese you are talking about, that is, the Chinese who have been enslaved by the Manchu Qing for hundreds of years, not the Chinese of the seventeenth century, just in the era when we traveled through the past, it is estimated that there are still Chinese on the mainland who are not willing to be slaves of the country who are persisting in resisting the Qing Dynasty!"
At this time, Zhu Beiguo came forward in time to change the topic, this topic is obviously of great practical significance, and everyone changed the topic, which can be regarded as eliminating a possible big quarrel.