174 And the men quarreled again
Before Li Junming responded, several people immediately spoke:
"Does the Red Chamber Convention apply? Feelings should only apply to our inner ......"
"Well, at least it should be, but it could also be appropriately extended to our discretionary area."
Someone added, but it sparked more discussion:
"Do you mean the people and the regions we control?"
"That's right, to put it bluntly, it's our own country and the people of this country!"
"Otherwise, how about we extend it a little more? As long as they accept our ideas, so can our allies!"
"Hey! We didn't understand what you guys were talking about, can you explain? ”
found that more people were already confused when they heard it, so Li Junming hurriedly explained:
"Actually, what they mean is that if he starts a company, then the company's actions should follow the spirit of the Red Chamber Convention, but there is a scope: only our own people."
"Then let me assume that if the chairman of the board goes to Daqing to do business, he will not be subject to the restrictions of the "Red Chamber Convention"? After all, that place is not under our jurisdiction! Are you telling me that in those places I can do things with impunity? ”
Apparently the one who said this was immediately keenly aware of the crux of the matter.
"Yes, the premise is that as long as you are hard enough, others can't help you!"
"Obviously, that's what Barrister Lee meant!"
"Damn! That's a double standard! It seems to conflict with the spirit of the Convention!"
"It seems to be ......"
"I feel like it's so scary behind this sentence......"
In the face of everyone's doubts, Li Junming explained at this time:
"Actually, this is something that can't be helped, we always have to face reality. In a word, I think that to treat civilized people, we must use civilized methods, and what about hooligans? It's going to be a hooligan!
You can say that this is a double standard, but in fact, it is not a double standard, because when you face a hooligan, if you still treat it in a pedantic and civilized way, you will be fully exploited by the hooligans, and you will also be ridiculed, and the hooligans will find the weakness to attack you.
Therefore, we cannot be pedantic, in a word, farmers who save poisonous snakes. ”
Before Lawyer Li's voice fell, someone immediately applauded:
"Yes, yes, yes! That's right! A viper is a viper, and it will bite you! There are lessons from history, such as the appeasement of Nazi Germany in those years, which was ......"
"The question is, what is your criterion for distinguishing civility from barbarism? That's the key! Otherwise, all your actions will degenerate into an excuse for you to enslave others! ”
That's when someone in the crowd asked a pointed question.
"My criteria are very simple, and of course they are very crude: to accept our idea of the Red Chamber Convention is to be civilized, otherwise it is barbaric!"
Zhu Beiguo suddenly became interested, and he also stood up and replied categorically.
"Uh...... Brother Zhu, this is indeed simple and crude, but it is very difficult for you to get the people of the seventeenth century to accept these ideas, so you will find barbarism everywhere!"
At this time, Lao Wang commented faintly in the corner.
"Yes, what Elder Wang said is that according to this standard, we will not have friends and will fall into a difficult situation, right?"
"Hey, you're talking about something else......"
"In fact, why should the people of the seventeenth century accept our idea of the Convention? If people don't accept it, is there anything to lose for us? To be honest, if I start a company, I really don't want to be constrained! ”
"Yes, capital is profit-seeking!"
"That's right, of course, the bottom line is still there, for example, in our own country, of course, we must abide by the law and pay taxes according to the regulations, we must respect human rights, and the benefits that should be given to employees must also be given, and the respect that should be respected must also be respected, but once we go abroad, then we can be unscrupulous......"
However, as soon as this remark came out, it attracted a burst of uproar:
"Don't say it so explicitly! If you say it too explicitly, it will corrode people's hearts, you know?! ”
"Yes, yes, yes! Of course, let's not say it so explicitly, let's put it nicely, just call it 'combined with the local people and national conditions'! What do you think of what I said? ”
"One word: false."
"Two words: too fake!"
"Of course! That's why many of the world's largest multinational companies would rather open sweatshops abroad than leave jobs to their own people! ”
At this time, a group of high school students were ** again, and they also joined the discussion:
"The evil of capital, this is!"
"There is a saying that capital is dripping with blood from head to toe......"
"Yes, it seems like a historical figure said it."
"Sure enough!"
At this time, Yu Hewei, the former executive and founder of the financial innovation platform who had been silently eating melons next to him, couldn't listen to it anymore, and he immediately stood up and retorted:
"Sure enough, you're a yarn! What is the evil of capital? There is a saying in our hometown: Say it lightly and eat a lamp grass! Would you like to understand the concept of uneven development and value depression? ”
"What depression? What do you mean? Brother Yu? ”
This means that because of the uneven development, the standards of the so-called sweatshops are different! Don't you know? What is a sweatshop in the eyes of some people may be a paradise for people to eat and be safe in the eyes of others! To blame the evils of capital, you might as well explore the root causes of this imbalance!
In fact, in the final analysis, it is the inequality of development opportunities between people, right? And this inequality of opportunity, in the final analysis, does not stem from the inequality between people? Therefore, I very much agree with the point of view expounded by lawyer Li and Zhu Beiguo: all the sins and sufferings in this world come from inequality between people! ”
At this time, several old guys next to him nodded yes one after another, and said with emotion:
"So, you young people have to read more books, and read something other than textbooks, otherwise people will become stupid and don't know it!"
"What's wrong with us?"
"Why do you keep talking about us?"
The high school students asked, confused. So several science and engineering men on the other side couldn't help it:
"Why? Because you attribute all these evils to capital! In reality, capital is nothing more than a tool. For example, if someone slashes someone with a knife, do you say that this is the sin of the knife, or is it the sin of the person with the sword? Alas, you guys, it's just a fork! ”
"Who do you say?"
"You fork!"
"Your whole family!"
"Your whole family plus eight generations of ancestors are all forked......"
"Oops! Guys, brothers! It's over! It's over! ”
"Why are you scolding people?"
"It's all brothers, don't do that."
"Oops! Don't be angry, you have something to say......"
"Robert's rules of procedure, let's get to know!"
Obviously, everyone is a little unfamiliar with this new word:
"What rules?"
"I don't know, what Brother Zhu just said...... The rules of procedure of the Lao Luo family ......"
"Everyone! Everybody! Stop arguing, everyone! Listen to me, that's how I understand it......"
At this time, Lao Ba stood up, waved vigorously in front of the noisy room, and then said loudly to the gradually quiet group:
"In fact, it's understandable that we engage in double standards, capital must pursue profits, otherwise there will be no losses, right? Therefore, it is natural for capital to pursue profits. However, as the saying goes, people go to high places, and water flows to low places, in fact, capital is water. If a person can't stand sweatshops, then elevate himself to a higher place!
In reality, when capital fills up a value depression, it will flow to another value depression, and in the end, the overall tide rises and lifts all boats, and it also objectively improves the development level of the whole society, right? So capital has nothing to blame! Guys, am I right? ”
"That's right!"
"Makes sense!"
"The question is, what if a person can't improve and can't go to a higher place in the end?"
"Don't want to be motivated? Then knock it out! ”
"Leave it to its own devices!"
"Oops! Didn't I hear that there is also a thing called social welfare? ”
"yes, there should be a backdrop."
"Bottom line? In the end, it also depends on wealth, right? ”
"So you have to rely on capital to make money for profit! With wealth, we can continue to improve the level of the bottom! ”
"Yes, yes, yes! That's why development is the last word! ”
"Therefore, it is natural for capital to pursue profits, and it is unreasonable for you to accuse capital of pursuing profits, just like accusing people of consuming resources to eat! Ladies and gentlemen, the way to restrain capital from doing evil is not to eliminate capital, but to improve people's legal awareness and moral level! ”
Lao Ba finally completed his speech in a categorical manner.