On the matter of how to determine the relationship between officials and the people in the future, Liu Zongzhou concluded that officials should be consistent from top to bottom, and this consistency means that officials should be satisfied with both levels when doing things. Tianqi completely agrees with this conclusion, and what he disagrees with is Liu Zongzhou's idea of overkill, because he is afraid that things will go from one extreme to another.

In the past, officials only listened to their superiors in doing things, and this phenomenon was called supremacism or authoritarianism. If there is no bottom-up feedback to combine with it, it will inevitably be suspected of being out of touch with reality, people who have never planted the field and do not want to know how to farm guide farmers how to farm, and people who do not know how to farm will pretend to be experts to guide doctors on how to treat diseases and save people. These can have dire consequences.

It is not intolerable for supremacy and authoritarianism to detach themselves from reality and cause losses, after all, people in low positions today have the obligation to let those in high positions live a good teacher's addiction, but the practice of supremacy and authoritarianism for a long time will imperceptibly change the social atmosphere and ethics. When everyone thinks that supremacy and authoritarianism are taken for granted, some people will say that it is fragrant when the leader farts, and if the leader says that the rooster will lay eggs, a few sycophants will immediately come out and say that they have seen it with their own eyes, and those who do it more shamelessly will say that it is a double yolk egg.

However, Liu Zongzhou's conclusion made things go to the other extreme, that is, from soterism and solitism to herism. If two out of three people say that one plus one equals five, does one plus one really equal five? Maybe a question like one plus one is very simple, and many people will not think so, so for those difficult questions, is it possible to find the correct answer by voting in the form of a minority obeying the majority? One person's opinion is not necessarily correct, and the opinions of 10,000 such people add up to not necessarily be correct.

Just as the practice of supremacism and solitism for a long time will have an impact on the social atmosphere, the practice of solipsism for a long time will also have dangerous consequences, that is, the people will think that it is right to have more people and loud voices, and when encountering things, they are not thinking about how to calm down and find a reasonable way, but thinking about how to find more people to support themselves so that things will develop in the direction that is beneficial to themselves□ Zong Zhou's original intention is that supremacism and solitism have been practiced for too long to overkill. What he didn't expect was that once the people tasted the sweetness, it would not be easy to change it, and if the rights were given and taken away, it would be difficult to produce **.

Of course, Tianqi is still very satisfied with the performance of Liu Zongzhou and Gao Panlong, as well as King Xin and Xu Guangqi, who are able to make their own judgments through deduction and consultation, and are able to adhere to their own views without interference from external forces, indicating that they have taken the lead in making a change in their identity. In the past, officials in the court and the central government thought that they were working for the emperor, but the difference was between short-term and long-term work, and there was no sense of responsibility. Apocalypse was happy about this change of identity, but because of this, it was even more difficult for him to easily disagree with their opinions, so as not to discourage their positivity.

Seeing that Liu Zongzhou and Gao Panlong were very sure of their conclusions, Tianqi suddenly thought of a good solution, and he asked: "In the fourth year of Tianqi, I was deceived by Wei Zhongxian and belittled Master Gao and Master Liu to go home, more than two years have passed since the incident, do you still feel uncomfortable about this matter in your hearts?" ”

Gao Panlong's most hated person in his life is Wei Zhongxian, he was very uncomfortable when he heard Wei Zhongxian's name, and when he saw the apocalypse mention this annoying person again, Gao Panlong's eyelids couldn't help jumping a few times, he thought about it and replied: "Thunder, rain and dew are all heavenly graces, how can ministers still be uncomfortable now?" However, at that time, I was really sad in my heart, and hated Wei Gelding for bullying the monarch and causing disaster to the country and the people, and now I think that Wei Gelding was not punished for this, and I still have some regrets. ”

Liu Zongzhou saw Gao Panlong admit his matter, and also nodded and said: "No matter who is belittled for no reason, he will not be happy, is there any new statement for the emperor to bring up the old matter?" ”

Apocalypse said: "I think so, you are still having a pimple in your hearts after being reprimanded and then reinstated to your position, will those who are promoted first and then reprimanded be more resentful? You started to say that in the past, officials only listened to the orders of their superiors and ignored the demands of the people, so they had to overdo it in order to quickly achieve the goal of unanimity between the top and bottom, but the problem is that once we focus on taking into account the lower levels to formulate policies, it will be extremely difficult to change them in the future. We have said before that we must follow the golden mean, that is, not to go to extremes and keep pace with the times. ”

Liu Zongzhou thought for a while and said: "The emperor's consideration has a certain reason, and the minister's meaning is to focus on the lower first, and wait for the people's sense of equality and participation in governing the country to keep up, and then gradually retreat to maintain impartiality." It's like a small tree that grows bent, and in order for it to grow straight in the future, the tree must be bent in the opposite direction, and after a while, it will naturally grow straight. ”

Tianqi shook his head and said: "Da Ming is not a small tree, and the people themselves don't care about strictness and leniency, they care about the constancy of the policy and adapt to it. In the past, it was a kind of strictness to ignore their demands, but now if we make policies that are too inclined to them, they may be happy for a while, but after a while, they will think that you have not done enough, and if you want to think how grateful the people are, it is a dream ♀, and then you have to say that you will change it back, and I am afraid that there will be not one or two but tens of thousands of people who will oppose it. ”

Seeing that Liu Zongzhou was pondering, Tianqi continued: "The reason for this is that Lord Liu is empty and thinks slowly, and you Holy Academy should also think about how to embody the principle of consistency when officials are produced. You began to say that officials should make their administrative plans according to the arrangements of the auxiliary political organs before taking office, and you also said that the auxiliary political organs at all levels must maintain a high degree of consistency with the central authorities, which shows compliance with the higher authorities. In your attitude towards your subordinates, you conclude that you should ask the people what they think and revise them according to their opinions until they are satisfied, and the question is what if the people are not satisfied? What if the people are satisfied and the court is not satisfied? ”

This will inevitably hurt the interests of some people, taking into account this party can not take care of the other party, want to do everything, but the final result is often not pleasing to both sides, inside and outside is not people, want to achieve the final satisfaction through coordination is just an ideal state, one party is satisfied, one side is not satisfied, or both parties are not satisfied is the norm.

Liu Zongzhou thought for a while and said: "The emperor's question is that the minister goes back and thinks about it slowly, but the minister doesn't understand one thing, that is, what the emperor said about how to reflect the consistency of the top and bottom when the officials are produced, do we really want to elect officials as the Taixi people say?" In the past, the court push system was only used among officials, and I have never heard of the common people electing officials, so will the world be in chaos? ”

Gao Panlong originally agreed with Liu Zongzhou's opinion, but because he was in charge of the Metropolitan Procuratorate, he had less theoretical things than Liu Zongzhou, but he knew more about the actual situation, and he said at this time: "The chaos in the world may not appear, and the chaos for a while will definitely appear, because there is still a gap between the common people and the officials, and they may not be able to use them well if they are given rights." ”

Tianqi nodded and said: "Lord Gao is to the point, but since you see that directly letting ordinary people participate in the selection of officials will be chaotic, do you have any solution?" ”

Gao Panlong said: "There is no good way for the minister to do it for the time being, but the minister heard Lord Liu talk about the study of people in the Holy Academy yesterday, and the minister wants to do different things according to the advantages and disadvantages of people of different identities, and finally cooperate with each other to learn from each other's strengths and weaknesses to achieve the closest to perfection." ”

Tianqi looked at Liu Zongzhou and asked, "Lord Liu, what kind of research results have I never heard of?" What exactly is a research report? ”

Liu Zongzhou said embarrassedly: "The minister was about to talk about this matter just now, but he forgot about other things, so the minister said it and asked the emperor to see if it was right, and after extensive investigation, it was found that people with different identities generally speak from their own standpoint, and each has its own strengths and weaknesses." According to the emperor, administrative officials should have the advantages of obedience and fairness, which should also be a reflection of their ability, but today's officials like to do things according to their personal preferences and do not listen to other people's opinions. If this problem is not resolved, neither the supervisory or auxiliary institutions will be able to play a real role. ”

Tianqi thought for a while and said, "Yes, who can be the master himself, and it is rare for someone to give him ideas?" If you want to listen to opinions, it is better to invite a few capable staff, and it is easy to be obedient and not to speak. As for the supervision and administration institutions, they are even more insensitive to these people, how good it is to be free and easy, and no one will be happy to have a father in front of them. However, if it is really to be implemented, it is not up to them, that is, as I said at the beginning, we must consider how to reflect the consistency of the upper and lower levels when producing officials, the supervisory agency must have not listen, and the staff must spend their own money to ask the auxiliary political agency to be established by the state, and it is not cost-effective to do it yourself. ”

Liu Zongzhou said: "I won't say that the supervisory organs and auxiliary administrative organs are originally a set of people, but the difference is that one is called the supervisory government for the lower level, and the other is called the auxiliary government for the lower level. There are two kinds of people in the auxiliary political institutions, one who grasps the overall situation like the Holy Academy, and the other who handles specific affairs like the Doctoral Academy, and these two departments can help the official to avoid detours, and can also supervise the official to avoid making mistakes. ”

Apocalypse asked, "What about then?" What are the shortcomings of the people? ”

Liu Zongzhou said: "The ministers and others personally went to ask many ordinary people from all walks of life, and at first they did not tell the truth for fear of retaliation, but later the ministers promised that the conversation would be kept confidential before they were willing to express their opinions. However, the minister found that their opinions were always only concerned about themselves, and they would only complain about how incompetent the officials would only make them suffer, and few people could have a sense of the overall situation and consider how the country was doing, which made the minister very disappointed. At the beginning, the emperor said that the people will not know how to be grateful, no matter how good you are to him, he will think that you have not done enough, the minister remembered these things at the time, it seems that the emperor emphasized that he could not overdo it, I am afraid that he is right. [Serialized, stay tuned...] This book is provided by (apread.genuine, please support genuine)

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