Yang Congyi hurriedly replied: "Brother Shen is talking about it. Of course, the establishment of an agricultural country is impeccable, and no one can shake it without agriculture, without stability, without food. But three hundred and sixty lines, Shinong industry and commerce, normal country is indispensable, farmers can plant land can also grow mulberry, the land has north and south, the mountains have high and low, rely on the mountains to eat the mountains, rely on the water to eat water, the mountains can grow tea, the plains can get grain, the grain growers want to drink tea, the tea planters want to eat grain, there is no exchange, there must be a return, otherwise you let the mountains plant rice, that year will starve to death, the plains plant tea for three or five years before there is a mouthful, a big water, the dead leaves of the trees withered, back to the easy to plant tea in the mountains and have grain to eat, the plains have tea. Silk porcelain is even more so, if the fertile fields and mountains are all grown with grain, there is no silk cloth and porcelain, it must be unclothed, and the rice is grasped by hand, such a scene is the savage period.

Therefore, the way of returning to the easy is the way to communicate with each other, which can make the grain growers proficient in growing grain, the mulberry growers are good at raising silkworms and producing silk, the tea planters are good at stir-frying tea, the porcelain burners are good at firing fine porcelain, the weavers are good at weaving, the shipwrights are good at shipbuilding, the chefs are good at cooking, the doctors are good at teaching, the industry is good at diligence, and the value is specialized.

Although Huiyi is very profitable, but one or two tea leaves are hundreds of thousands of dollars, I don't see all the people in the world to plant tea trees, a plate of carved dim sum three or five times, I don't see all the people in the world to do cooks, a set of official kiln porcelain five times and ten times, and I don't see all the people in the world to burn ceramics, all of which will not be listed. Brother Shen said that it was easy to go back together, the people were pursuing profits, the fields were barren, no one was farming, there was no food to eat, it was really ridiculous, this is not to mention! ”

Qin Miao said: "Brother Yang just said that once the sea ship starts, it can make tens of millions of dollars in two years, and Qin really can't believe it." Thinking of my Great Song Dynasty, located in the fertile land of the East, when it was prosperous, it was also considered a vast area, abundant products, and a year's tax revenue was only 10,000,000 yuan, thinking about the southern islands, barbarian small countries, wild lands, not following etiquette, not clothed, how to get tens of millions of dollars from them, Brother Yang exaggerated, Qin really didn't dare to believe it. Presumably, everyone here also has a lot of questions in their hearts, and I ask Brother Yang to elaborate on them. ”

He suddenly woke up to the fact that the theory of returning to the Yi is not a matter of nature, but how to return to the Yi is the top priority, and he has never heard the other party mention it, so there should be a question. The policy of clearing the acres of land has been refuted, and it is difficult to implement, and the theory of returning to the rich treasury is not easy to implement.

Yang Congyi said: "Brother Qin doesn't know, this world is vast and boundless, and with the breadth of the Great Song Dynasty, it is less than one percent of the world. There are Wa Kingdom and Goryeo in the east, and the Central Plains has always been ignored, although their territory is small, but they have accumulated countless gold and silver for thousands of years. Southwest Dali, founded for many years, is also rich, along the south coast, there is a big country, Qin and Han Dynasty, called Annam, Han Dynasty set up Annam Protectorate, at this time independent into a country, has unified the peninsula, called Angkor Dynasty, also known as Khmer, the region is not much smaller than the current Song Dynasty, the land is fertile, when there is no grain, sow seeds anytime and anywhere, there is a harvest, do not worry about eating and drinking, the dynasty imitates the Central Plains of China, has been established for a long time, and there are many big cities.

Then to the south, called Java in ancient times, now it is the country of the Three Buddhas, the islands are all over the place, the products are abundant, go west from the strait between the archipelagos, there is the mainland called Tianzhu in the Tang Dynasty, in the south of the Western Regions and the Tibetan Regions, the Tubo is bitter and cold, and Tianzhu is warm and comfortable, and now it has become more than ten small countries, they do not belong to each other, each has a city, it is also rich and rich, and then there is the Gil Dynasty to the west, the north is connected to Tubo and the Western Liao, this place has a long history, has been rich for thousands of years, and the Western Regions have many contacts when the Han Dynasty is protected. Further west is the Arab Empire region, the Tang Dynasty called the black clothes of the big food, at this time has been the same as Tianzhu, into dozens of small countries, the central area of this place is called the two river basins, the abundance is abnormal, the time of the strong is comparable to the Han and Tang Dynasties.

From this to the south there is a large piece of land, the north is called Egypt, located in the Nile River Valley, once established the Egyptian Empire, strong but not less than the Han and Tang Dynasties, although not as good as in the past, but still abundant, gold and silver everywhere, the south of the continent can not be explored, I don't know how vast. There is a powerful empire in the north of Egypt, which has existed for thousands of years, known as the Roman Empire, with a vast territory and incomparable prosperity, from which there are countless small countries to the west, and the waterways are not yet connected, and the name of the country is unknown. Because of the demise of the Tang Dynasty, the lands lost normal contact with Oriental China, but there are still occasional people who ignore the difficulties and obstacles, sail far away, and come to the sacred Oriental holy land in their hearts.

During the Han and Tang dynasties, the oriental silk porcelain, from the northwest land route to the west, has been the western kings and nobles, at the expense of the heavy money to buy things, now the land route for the Xia State Liao State blocked, if you can open the maritime Silk Road, the Great Song Dynasty a boat of tea porcelain silk, you can exchange for a boat of gold and silver, you can also buy back spices and treasures, back to the Great Song Dynasty, and can be exchanged for countless silver money, a hundred merchant ships go back and forth once every two years, earn tens of millions, it is not a problem at all, not a few times, the treasury is abundant, the Great Song Dynasty is strong again, and it is just around the corner. I don't know what you think? ”

Qin Miao said: "Although Qin doesn't know if the countries in the Western Regions that Brother Yang said are indeed what they are, they have a long history and a rich country. But it takes two years to go to sea once, not to mention the vast sea, even if you are boating on the cave, it is difficult to distinguish between east and west, north and south, how can you let the sea boat go for two years without losing its way? Thinking that the countries of the Western Regions, no one has ever been there, and the merchant ships at sea will not go too far, Annan is the hometown of China, not too far, the sea ship can reach the south of Annan, it is still possible, if it can be said that it can go from the sea to Tianzhu, and then to the black clothes and food, Qin can't believe it. I heard that the sea is vast and boundless, and it takes a month for the shipowner to go to the Japanese country, and there is nothing on the sea, so it is very easy to lose his way, and it sounds like he can make a lot of money when he goes south, but the road is far away, and he does not distinguish between things and things, so it is really difficult to implement. ”

Yang Congyi said with a smile: "You don't know, there are also charts on the sea, you can know the direction, and there is a sharp weapon to identify the direction, that is the needle plate, no matter when and where, the pointer always points to the south, with the needle plate, whether it is in the desert grassland, or the vast sea, you can know the direction at any time, this is the unique creation and invention of the Great Song Dynasty, I don't know if you have heard of it?" ”

Qin Miao said: "I have never heard of such an object. Did Brother Shen ever know? ”

Shen Jin shook his head and said, "Shen hasn't heard of it either. ”

Yang Congyi smiled: "I don't know if you know Shen Kuo's person?" ”

Seeing that no one answered, no one should know, so he continued: "Shen Gong and Brother Shen are of the same clan, and served as the governor of the northwest during the Yuanfeng period, stationed at the border, resisting the Xia State, he wrote a book, called "Mengxi Bi Tan", in which he described the production method and characteristics of the needle plate, and it was very easy to distinguish the direction. Shen Gong's birthplace is here, Lin'an Qiantang County, after resigning from the official position, he lived in seclusion in Zhenjiang, not far from Brother Shen. ”

After hearing this, Qin Miao said: "Even if there is really a needle plate that can point the way on the sea, but the sea ship goes to sea for two years, full of goods, and the ship is heavy, the sea ship touches the reef in the wind, it is inevitable, even if the wood is strong, once touched, it will still be damaged immediately, once the sea water pours in, it will sink to the bottom of the sea in an instant, and the silk and porcelain on the ship will be damaged, not only can not make money easily, but may also lose all the money, Brother Yang has ever thought about this problem?" ”

Yang Congyi said: "When the ship goes to sea, it is inevitable to touch the reef, and it is normal for the ship to be damaged, as long as it is not seriously damaged and broken into two, it can still sail on the sea, and wait until the right place to dock, and then make repairs, which will not affect the ship to continue to move forward." ”

Qin Miao said: "Brother Yang's words are not right. In June this year, when I was boating on Taihu Lake, I saw a boat that ran into a reef and broke, and in a short time, the boat sank to the bottom of the lake. Brother Yang, what did he say, he could still sail if he was not seriously damaged? Once damaged and flooded, the ship will sink. ”

Yang Congyi explained: "Brother Qin doesn't know that the construction methods of small boats on the lake are very different from those of sea boats. The sea ship is tall, a bilge will become more than ten compartments that are not connected to each other, and then filled with fresh water to be sealed, this is ballast water, its purpose is three, one is the height of the sea ship, not to make the lower part of the ship into the water with heavy ballast, it is easy to be blown down and subverted by strong winds, the second is the partition of each cabin, even if it hits the reef and is damaged, the sea water influxes, it is also in a compartment, and has no effect on other compartments, and the upper part of the compartment is sealed, the water can not be flooded, and its three ocean voyages, can not dock for several days and months, the sea water is bitter, undrinkable, the compartment water of the bilge, It is the drinking water of the people on board.

This method of shipbuilding has been used in seaside shipyards, and this method is called the watertight cabin method. Ships built in this way are very durable, and even if they are badly damaged, as long as they are not sinkable, they can be repaired and used again once they are docked, and they are the most convenient to use at sea and are not easy to break. Therefore, Brother Qin's worries are not to be feared, the ship goes to sea, and it will inevitably be damaged, but the silk porcelain will not be lost, nor will it be lost. ”

Qin Miao said: "Watertight cabin method? Is there such a way? In Taihu Lake that day, I saw the boat sinking, and I never heard anyone talk about it, isn't it Brother Yang, making up words? ”

Yang Congyi said with a smile: "Brother Qin thinks highly of Yang, this kind of method and wisdom, I can't match, it is the wisdom of shipbuilders." If Brother Qin doesn't believe it, he can go to sea in person to find out. ”

"Thank you for the great debate!" Fang Teng waited for a long time, and interjected in time to interrupt the debate.

He smiled at the four people in the audience and said, "Brother Qin, Brother Shen, Brother Yang, Brother Tang, the four of you are fortunate. Thanks to the four of you for the wonderful debate, it is really a feast for the ears and ears, and I can't stop it, but the sun is in the west, and the hour is not early, which is a pity. Thank you again for the great debate! ”

After saluting the onlookers, the four of them left the stage.

Everyone was very curious about the identities of Yang Congyi and Tang Xun, and couldn't help but turn their heads to look, seeing that Tang Xun was very embarrassed.

Fang Teng stood in the middle of the scene and immediately announced: "Thank you for your support and active participation, today's discussion and debate have come to a successful conclusion." The six debates are brilliant and wonderful, and they will be spread all over Lin'an tomorrow and make you famous! Thank you again for your participation, and this concludes today's debate. ”

Tang Xun couldn't stand the curious eyes of others, and as soon as the defense party announced the end, he hurriedly left with Yang Congyi.