After listening to Xu Ping, Zhao Zhen let out a sigh of relief and said to Li Di: "According to what the third division said, the surplus money and grain in the world have a place to go, and where there is a war, it will be allocated from there, which is very organized. I often read history books www.biquge.info and every time I see and talk about the war, I am worried about money and food, borrowing from east and west, and piecing together everywhere, which is very hard. If the three divisions do this, it will not be like this. ”

Li Di praised the wat: "Your Majesty is right." However, these things are easy to plan, but not so difficult to do. Although the bridge and road division has already repaired the road, when it is really used, how to collect grain and grass in the place, and how to transport it on the road, there are thousands of different things. If the three divisions really want to straighten out these things, I'm afraid that they will have to put in countless efforts. ”

Chen Yaozuo said: "Li Xianggong said that it was too complicated, and he took care of everything, so what is it?" The things of the world should be cut through the chaos quickly, and when there are roads and food, the government should no longer take care of those small sections. Now that there are banks, there is no shortage of money, and there must be brave men under the so-called heavy rewards, and as long as the price is high, there will naturally be profiteering merchants to transport those grain and grass to the place. ”

Whatever you are afraid of, Xu Ping hurriedly said: "Xianggong, the third division has spent so much effort, countless silver money, manpower and material resources into it, just don't want to put the country's major affairs in the hands of profit-making businessmen. Soldiers, the major affairs of the country, the place of death and life, the way of survival, must not be taken lightly! Merchants can do it in the war, and it is impossible for them to help them in the snow. Merchants make profits, and when they send charcoal in the snow, it is the time for them to make profits, and when they ask for a higher price, they still refuse to deliver the goods they want to you, so what can they do? The more anxious you are, the more they refuse to give it to you, so don't you see the lives of soldiers fighting on the front line as a joke? Therefore, what I just said cannot be relied on by businessmen. ”

Chen Yaozuo disagreed: "It is precisely because of the profiteering of businessmen that they should be used." But it's just money, it's hard for them to make money! The imperial court now has money! Shinong industry and commerce, each useful, transporting goods for profit, it is the businessman who does it! ”

"Xianggong, businessmen make profits by communicating with each other, buying low and selling high, and they will only transport goods as a last resort. When the time came for them to be used in wartime, it seemed to the merchants that it was better to make two with one than to bother with transporting two. Therefore, only when you can buy the goods in the hands of the merchants, they are most useful, and when you want to buy his goods to save your life, then you will have to pay at least half your life. That's where they can be the icing on the cake, not just the icing on the cake. ”

Chen Yaozuo thinks this way because he thinks the businessman will do what he thinks, so how is that possible? What businessman who dares to profit in war is a good baby? No treachery and no business is the true color. The war went well, everything was fine, they got rich with the army, and in the event of twists and turns, these people ran away first. I always feel that as long as I can pay a high enough price, someone will come to make this money, and everything will be fine. That's a good word, but the problem is that no one in the world can afford that kind of price. Really rich is when others beg to earn your money, and when you beg others to earn it, how much money is quickly spent.

Seeing that Xu Ping was at odds with him, Chen Yaozuo was a little unhappy: "What should the three divisions say?" Do you want to repeat the old words just now and let the Xiang army transport grain and grass? In that case, the number of troops will increase, but it is better to use merchants to make it more cost-effective! ”

Xu Ping saluted Zhao Zhen with his hand: "What Chen Xianggong asked just now is exactly what the minister wanted to say. The road has been repaired, and the prosperous state army in the interior has enough surplus food, and what is still lacking is how to support the war. The first surplus grain must be saved, and the grain and rice prepared for the war cannot be put into the regular liquidation position, because the name is not justified and can be easily misappropriated. Therefore, the minister believes that there should be a separate position, and the position with the regular closing should be controlled by the Cao Division and the Xian Division respectively. They should not act privately if there is a common practice. The second is transport. In the past, the requisitioning of people's husbands, or forcing the transfer of people in the name of transfer, were extremely harmful to the people. Since last year, the imperial court has not allowed any more variegated taxes such as local transfers, so it can't be the same as before. The three divisions thought that the mailing and other matters under the original bridge and road division should come out separately and set up a separate division. When there was no war, they transported goods normally, and charged according to the weight and mileage, which was enough to feed the officials of the division. Things like three-division shops, delivery between companies, and so on, will be attributed to them in the future, and private businessmen can also pick up and do the same long-distance transportation. In wartime, all chores were stopped, and no more people were recruited, and boats and vehicles were hired from the people to transport grain and grass materials according to the established routes. The requisitioned people are the same as the money. ”

Chen Yaozuo said: "In addition to setting up a separate yamen, what is the difference between doing this and letting merchants transport grain?" ”

"Xianggong, the yamen of the imperial court, they must do it when they order it, otherwise they have their own national law! Moreover, there is no such thing as indiscriminate price increases during wartime, and the affairs of the yamen are, of course, the imperial court has the final say! ”

What Xu Ping had to do was to set up a separate mailing department, which was separated from the Bridge Division, and had nothing to do with the original post station under the Privy Council. Official documents, military information, etc. are still delivered by post stations, and the mailing system is only engaged in civilian business. The post office now does not accept the delivery of letters from the people, and only officials are allowed to use the post mail. And the communication between the people in different places can only rely on the merchants to travel. This market is a reality, and the mailing system can occupy it.

The most important thing is, of course, to transport goods, which is Xu Ping's intention to set up a mailing department. Now there are three shops, and there are goods transportation between companies in various places, and just relying on these official ordinary business, it is enough to raise a mailing team. Coupled with the private business, they may be able to make a profit in normal times. And when it comes to wartime or natural disasters, you can use this ready-made mechanism to transport supplies on a large scale. If there is a shortage of personnel, we can hire them from the private sector temporarily, and even cars, boats, horses and mules can be hired from the private sector, so that the transportation capacity can increase rapidly. The key is to have such a mature system, everything has rules to follow, and it avoids being like before, not knowing what to do when things come to an end, just rushing around like a headless fly.

All in all, after the road is repaired, a shelf is erected from storage to transportation. This shelf can feed itself in peacetime and does not cost much, but in wartime, it can quickly change its status and transport supplies to where they are needed. Because the employees are all ordinary people, neither officers nor soldiers, they are recruited when there is something to do, and they are dismissed when there is nothing to do, which is different from the forbidden army.

For the state, the key is that there is such a mechanism, even if it is just a shelf put up there, and it can be relied on when it is really needed. Without such a mechanism, you will be at a loss when things come and don't know where to start.

With the road and such a mechanism, the Third Division now has money in hand, and the system of transporting military rations and materials from the interior to the border will basically take shape. In fact, in order to cope with the war, Xu Ping established a complete war preparation plan from hardware to software. When the relevant regulations are perfected, the war is together, and the relevant plan can be activated.

To do things this far, if there is still chaos at that time, Xu Ping really has nothing to say.

Seeing that Chen Yaozuo no longer spoke, Li Di asked: "If the third division does this, how much more grain will it cost every year in addition to setting up a new yamen?" According to what you said earlier, this mailing yamen can only be done all over the world, and there are quite a few people to hire. Although there is no shortage of money and food now, the imperial court can not support too many people who eat food. ”

"Back to the prime minister, it doesn't cost much to mail the yamen. Xia Guan has calculated that just the income from transporting goods for the third division shop will be able to raise people, and it is enough to take on some folk chores. The real place to spend money is to buy cars and ships. These are always indispensable, but there is nothing at all. ”