The conversation at the Nanjing University continued, and the people of Nanjing finally understood that what was happening in Nanjing these days was an action taken by these businessmen to force the government to comply in order to enter these fields that were related to the national economy and people's livelihood.

"Several factories have been shut down, and these factories will no longer have to open, and the government will make other arrangements for the workers. Recently, the Wehrmacht has won a series of victories on the battlefield, and we have recovered a lot of land, and a lot of the land recovered from the Tartars is still uncultivated. ”

Luo Jian's voice continued, but after these words came out, the faces of several businessmen, including Liu Dongjia, were completely bloodless.

"As for these people, although they disrupted the market and interfered with our Northern Expedition, because our laws are not perfect enough, there is no existing law to punish them, and of course we will not kill them, but this matter is not just that."

Luo Jian noticed that everyone, including Shen Tong, was obviously relieved to hear that the Nanjing government would not sanction them.

"These people will be blacklisted by the government, and any of their business activities will not receive any support from the government in the future! The government will not allow them to enter any new industries in the future. The Chamber of Commerce will be re-established, but none of these people will be able to enter the Chamber of Commerce, and the members of the Chamber will be re-elected by the business community and established with the approval of the government. ”

Luo Jian's next words made Shen Tong and them fall into the ice cave, although they were basically the leaders of various industries, but from now on. It means that their future industry will never be able to develop normally in the future. It's worse than killing them.

Obviously, what Luo Jian announced on such an occasion on behalf of the Nanjing government could not be changed. When the people on the campus were almost scattered, Shen Tong was surrounded by more than a dozen businessmen, there was no "big cake", the losses of these people were real, and more than a dozen people were looking for Shen Tong to ask for an explanation.

Luo Jian and Shi Kefa will no longer pay attention to what will happen to Shen Tong, although the matter has been dealt with, there are many experiences and lessons left to the Nanjing government, and they must sit down and summarize it well.

"Xinghua. I was a little sloppy in dealing with this matter at first, but I didn't expect them to use the topic to play and make so many things. Shi Kefa said with some embarrassment.

"Hehe, they don't take this opportunity and look for other opportunities, this kind of thing happens sooner or later. If the strength in their hands is really strong, I'm afraid we won't be able to do anything. Luo Jian said with a smile, Shi Kefa handled it like this, it was instinctive because he didn't have a good impression of the businessman, why didn't he also use the topic to play?

"Xinghua, won't you? You say the government can't do anything about these businessmen? "Lu Zhenfei has relatively little contact with the economy. Hearing Luo Jian say that the government couldn't do anything about businessmen, he asked in surprise.

"It's not just that it can't be helped. If we don't take precautions, the whole country will be controlled by them in the future. "Shi Kefa has read "Currency Wars" and has been deeply influenced by the arguments in it.

Taking advantage of the time before eating, Shi Kefa gave Lu Zhenfei a brief introduction to the main content of "Currency War", and Lu Zhenfei was speechless.

"Ladies and gentlemen, don't be surprised when I say it, in our country, many countries are actually controlled by some big businessmen and big conglomerates, but judging from the situation of these countries, they are much more advanced and developed than other countries, are you a little surprised?" Luo Jian was afraid that everyone would go to the other extreme, so he hurriedly put forward different opinions.

Several people, including Shi Kefa, looked at Luo Jian with some surprise.

"In fact, this is already happening in many countries in Europe, that is, in Europa, and there is an invisible force at work." On the way back, Luo Jian has been thinking about how to deal with the booming bourgeoisie after solving the problem.

"Invisible power?" Lu Zhenfei asked curiously.

"This invisible force is the profit-seeking nature of capital. The nature of capital is to chase more profits, and the capitalists in many European countries, let's call them this way, are actually rich people, in order to chase more profits, they began to develop new technologies on the one hand, and began to explore the world on the other hand, precisely because these countries in Europe took the lead in forming these groups, so they were ahead of the whole world for a long time in the future. ”

Luo Jian's explanation caused everyone to ponder, and everyone fell silent.

After dinner, everyone went to the conference room again, and the summary meeting officially began, in fact, everyone has said a lot before eating, and the next thing to consider is how to deal with it.

"No matter how we guard against it, the power of capital, which I said at noon, will also appear in our country, and the power will become stronger and stronger, and this is not subject to our will. Unless we ruin everything we have now and go back to the small-scale peasant economy we used to have. Luo Jian continued on the topic he had said at noon.

"That's absolutely not good, Xinghua, you don't know, what the natural disaster tossed the good Ming Dynasty into, you don't believe it, and the household department couldn't even take out five hundred taels of silver at that time." Yuan Jixian was the left servant of the military department of the Chongzhen Dynasty at that time, and he was very clear about the situation in the Ming Dynasty.

"The development of everything has its own internal laws, just like a person from birth to adulthood, and then gradually aging, this is the law of nature, social development also has its internal laws, if we hold on to the old concept, and the concept of 'half of the treatise to rule the world', only from the pile of old papers to find a way to manage the country, then we will soon be eliminated." Luo Jian felt that today was not a discussion, but a social lesson for everyone.

"Xinghua, do you mean that the current merchant class is a new thing? Haven't merchants been around since ancient times? Shinong industry and commerce, the pipe has been proposed thousands of years ago. Zhu Yujian didn't understand what Luo Jian meant, and asked.

"Yes, merchants have existed since ancient times, what does this mean? It shows that the existence of businessmen is a need of society, and this part of the people is not dispensable in society. It's just that in the past, our society was dominated by a subsistence small-scale peasant economy, and the position of merchants was not so extremely important, but now the situation has changed dramatically. Luo Jian glanced at the people sitting at the table. See everyone is thinking. I was secretly happy in my heart.

"With the development of science and technology. Many things that are convenient for people's lives will appear one after another, let me give you an example, have you noticed the loudspeaker used in today's public trial? This involves a lot of knowledge of electromagnetism, and yesterday Cihuan told me that they are about to solve the problem of electric lights, and once electric lights appear, the application of electricity will enter the practical stage, and many new products related to it will also appear. Can't our government cover all of these products, right? ”

"Xinghua, there is something wrong with what you said, of course new things can make a lot of money, our government opened these factories, and used the money earned to build bridges and pave roads, and produce fertilizers to provide to farmers, wouldn't it be better, why let the money be earned by these black-hearted businessmen?" Lu Zhenfei finally found something wrong with Luo Jian's words, and said it quickly, and everyone looked at Luo Jian with a blank eye. It seems that this is also what they meant.

"Hehe, I knew everyone would have such a problem." Luo Jian smiled. He took a sip of water from his glass and was not in a hurry to answer.

"Xinghua, what are you selling? Hurry up and say it. Shi Kefa couldn't wait.

In fact, Luo Jian knew that Lu Zhenfei was talking about a simple concept of public ownership, and his predecessors had already tried to do so, but the current situation was very different from that time.

At that time, the predecessors were fighting against a group of people who represented the bourgeoisie, and finally defeated them, so the people they defeated and the interests represented by these people naturally became the trophies of the predecessors, and they could start everything from scratch and establish a state of public ownership, although many problems arose later, but the achievements of the predecessors in the construction of the state in the previous decades cannot be denied.

Although the predecessors have made great achievements, these achievements are highlighted in the overall strength of the country, in other words, embodied in the complete industrial system and the relatively complete national defense industry, in those years of time and space, these are the basis for the survival of the country, without these as the foundation, the future peaceful development and rise is also an empty word.

And the current situation is that Luo Jian and his people except for bringing some technology to this era, everything is almost from scratch, and to this day, the rapid development of industry and commerce has made great contributions, although these are done with the conscious support of the government.

Shi Kefa and the others saw that Luo Jian was deep in thought, knew that he was thinking about the problem, and no longer bothered him, they all picked up the water cup and drank the water, waiting quietly.

"What Minister Lu is talking about is also a kind of social system, and many people in our country have also tried this, and when we came, there were still some countries in the world that used this kind of system." Luo Jian said carefully after careful consideration.

"Everyone knows that before I came here, I was a soldier by profession, and I know this because of my education and the very developed information dissemination at that time. In other words, I'm not a politician or an economist, and I can't say what system is best for our current society, and I quote one of our sayings, which is that I can only 'cross the river by feeling the stones'. ”

"Minister Lu said that this kind of system is the most beneficial for a country to concentrate on big things, and can complete the infrastructure of a country in the shortest time, but I think the current system is not suitable for our current society. In terms of science and technology, I can say without hesitation that we are ahead of the curve. ”

Everyone listened very attentively, and they were all thinking hard, and they were also waiting for Luo Jian to continue.

"With the breakthrough of some new technologies, many new industries are about to emerge, and if all these industries are operated by the government, there will be two problems. The real problem is that our government still lacks enough foundation to do these things, whether it is in terms of talent or funds, we can't do it. ”

"It's a fact, and it's not a small amount of money to build a factory." Ren Minyu answered, and everyone nodded in approval.

"In the long run, there will be a lot of disadvantages in the government's management of enterprises, which cannot be explained in one or two sentences. In our case, if the government monopolizes these industries, it creates a situation where there is no technological progress. You might say that we can invest more money in research to solve this problem. But where is the direction of research, and what is most needed? Luo Jian said as he thought. (To be continued.) )