Chapter 524: The Inside Story of the Steel Industry

Yang Gai began to correct his subconscious misunderstandings.

Not only do you have to build a lot of cannons, but these cannons are very likely to be built within a year or two, and the number is very likely to be tens of thousands, because there are so many ships in your plan, that is to say, in fact, as long as the power is concentrated, it is never a problem to give up the silver, cannons or something, not only a few dozen cannons can be built every year in the historical records, if you refer to history, this is a very big misunderstanding.

Corrected the misunderstanding in the subconscious, Yang Reform began to laugh, this national power is really interesting, he just gently pushed it, this effect is so terrifying, to promote reform as an emperor, this effect, really has nothing to say, of course, the premise is that this emperor must know what he does, where the road is, and he must have real power in his hands, and he must have silver, and he must have prestige. Zheng He's fleet back then was also a masterpiece in this state, of course, Zhu Di's road was different from his own path, and the result was definitely different, no, not for sure, but it must be different.

Centralized industrialization?

Yang Reform began to laugh knowingly, he only used his strength, and the effect was so obvious, stepping through the door of industrialization, it was not as difficult as imagined.

"I understand......" Yang Reform has figured it out, and many inertial thinking in the past has led to a lot of misunderstandings, but now, he has figured it out.

Sun Chengzong and Sun Yuanhua both looked at the emperor and smiled puzzled.

"Well, Sun Qing's family, I summoned you here today, and I want to ask, how much steel can you smelt there every year now? How much steel does it take to cast a cannon? What about the others? Is there a number? Yang asked reform.

Sun Chengzong stood still and didn't say anything, Sun Yuanhua listened to the emperor's question, looked at Sun Chengzong, saw that Sun Chengzong didn't have any intention to speak, and saw that the emperor looked at himself and knew that it was time to speak.

"Back to Your Majesty, now, the ministers have used at least 800,000 catties of steel to cast cannons, according to 1,000 catties, including many Hongyi cannons, in fact, the ministers have used more than 1 million catties of steel just to cast these cannons, and if you count other uses of steel, it will be more, I'm afraid there are 2 million catties......" Sun Yuanhua calculated for a long time and said.

"Two million catties?" Yang Gai asked rhetorically, and at the same time, he was also calculating on paper, according to the calculation of almost 600 grams in Mingjin, it was already almost 1,200 tons, which was not less.

"Yes, it's not a lot, so where does all this steel go?" Yang Reform continued to ask, only half of them were used for casting cannons, and the other half were actually used for others, which was somewhat unexpected by Yang Reform.

"Back to Your Majesty, now that shipbuilding in the south is booming, the need for ship nails and iron tools has increased dramatically, and the minister feels that this is a bit profitable, and can subsidize the cost ......of casting guns, so he has taken a lot, among which the orders from Nanjing Shipyard are the most, and the others are the iron tools used to make guns and guns, and there is also the carriage yard, which also uses some steel, although it is not much, but it is a big entry," Sun Yuanhua reported.

"Oh, that is, what is needed for steel these days, in fact, shipbuilding is a big deal, isn't it?" Yang Gai has only now officially begun to understand the "heavy industry" of the Ming Dynasty in depth, and found that there is a big gap between the truth and his imagination.

"Back to Your Majesty, yes, for example, iron tools such as today, agricultural tools, ship nails and other iron tools are the most prosperous, followed by weapons and ......guns," Sun Yuanhua added.

"Well, that's right! Do I have a specific amount of steel production? Yang asked suspiciously.

"Your Majesty, this minister doesn't know." Sun Yuanhua replied.

"......" Yang Gai glanced at Sun Yuanhua. After thinking about it, he said: "Big companion, go and find Bi Ziyan......" Yang Reform said, this number, the household department should have.

Yang Reform originally just wanted to build a heavy industry base and promote the development of industrialization, but once he went deep into the industry, he found that his understanding was actually very limited, and it seemed that now he had to make up for the "industry" situation of the Ming Dynasty. This emperor is not easy to be! It would be nice if you could give a few random orders and get things done!

"The slave obeys." Wang Chengen agreed.

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In the warm pavilion, because the emperor was distracted, he fell into silence. Yang Reform is calculating, it seems that the steel output of the Ming Dynasty is likely to far exceed his own estimates, he originally thought that the steel demand for casting guns would account for the majority, in fact, even if it is his own special factory for casting guns, the amount of steel used for casting guns is only half of it, if it is private, the number of civil steel is estimated to be more terrifying, the foundation of the smelting industry in the Ming Dynasty may be very good, and it is by no means poor and white. ,

After a while, Bi Ziyan arrived and saluted.

"Bi Qingjia, I want to ask, what is the annual steel production of my dynasty?" Yang asked Gengai.

“…… This ......" Bi Ziyan was very surprised, the iron class of the Ming Dynasty was less, and it was almost the same as nothing, why did the emperor ask this?

“…… Back to Your Majesty, our dynasty has not counted the production of iron for many years, and there are few ...... in the iron class" Bi Ziyan replied, could it be that after the emperor made a move on the salt class, he is now going to get the iron class?

"There are no statistics, is it all the while?" Yang was depressed and wanted to learn about the "industry" of the Ming Dynasty, but was told that there were no statistics.

"Back to Your Majesty, now no, but, there used to be, the minister probably remembers, when I was the Taizu, the annual iron loss was about 7 million catties, and then it increased, and later, the official camp was opened, and the people were allowed to drum and practice on their own, which ......" Bi Ziyan said in the end, he couldn't go on, the relationship between today's iron class and iron production can be described as a world of difference, the more he said the more problems, Bi Ziyan simply shut his mouth.

"Oh, Taizu has more than seven million catties? Losing iron? That is to say, these are paid directly......" Yang Reform thought about it, this number is obviously also problematic, seven million is paid, so what about the people who don't have to pay? How do you calculate it? If this is used as a steel production, it is obviously not possible.

"What about more recent statistics? Isn't it gone? Yang asked again.

“…… Back to Your Majesty, maybe there is, this, the minister can't remember it, maybe he knows after checking it, but in recent years, there has been no detailed record in my dynasty...... "Bi Ziyan began to have a headache, and the emperor asked this strange thing, and he couldn't answer!"

"Oh, the Qing family estimates, now, how much steel does my dynasty produce every year?" Yang asked again.

“…… This, back to Your Majesty, according to the minister's estimate,...... This ......" Bi Ziyan hesitated and thought for a long time, this number is not easy to estimate, and after half a sound, he finally said: "...... Back to Your Majesty, although the minister does not know how much there is in fact, but if you look at the iron class silver of 5,800 taels per year of the Guangdong Political Envoy, there are at least about 20 million catties of iron, so the iron output of our dynasty is at least more than 100 million catties...... "Bi Ziyan had a headache for a long time, and finally boldly gave a number, this number is indeed bold enough, not how bold, but as bold as possible to underestimate, and the number must be accurate, and the amount gap between the iron class and the iron class is not too large, which is difficult enough. Instigation, the steel production in the middle and late Ming Dynasty, there seems to be a disagreement, and there is no detailed record, can only speculate that the conservative value is taken here, that is, as little as possible, if calculated according to the high, it may be as high as 100,000 tons per year, the number in the book is also estimated, and it is not accurate, and the 5,800 taels of silver mentioned above are the iron classes of Guangdong during the Jiajing period.

"100 million catties?" Yang Gengai asked suspiciously. 100 million catties, calculated as today's output, is 60,000 tons of steel, Yang Reform is ashamed, do not understand and do not matter, once understood, things are often very different from expected. If you calculate it this way, your own 1,200 tons of steel production is nothing, it is only a fraction! The metallurgical industry of the Ming Dynasty has a really good foundation.

"Back to Your Majesty, this is just a matter of the minister's estimate." Bi Ziyan replied.

"That's a lot!" Yang Reform said sullenly. This figure, but really beyond Yang reform's expectations, is a fraction of this output, if you use the steel enterprises under your control to shake the entire Ming steel industry, it is indeed a bit immeasurable.

Bi Ziyan was a little secretly anxious, today's iron class can't be collected, behind those iron mines are standing strong and strong, Your Majesty doesn't want to fight with those strong and powerful? Now that he has just fought the salt merchants, and he wants to fight those heroes, this ......, Bi Ziyan got up in a hurry, and looked at Sun Chengzong, Sun Chengzong looked impassive again, as if this matter was none of his business, Bi Ziyan was even more anxious.

"Your Majesty, at this time, the salt merchant has just moved, and the people's hearts have been decided, so it's not a good time to start the iron class!" Bi Ziyan hurriedly reminded him that the matter of the Divine Ancestor back then was still vivid, and the emperor was too anxious, not to mention, the tax of this iron tax was very small, and even if he moved, he would gain little, and he would make a fuss.

"Iron class?" Yang Reform's mind was not to move those taxes, but to consider the proportion of steel he controlled in the steel production of the Ming Dynasty, which was too small.

"Yes! Your Majesty, now is really not a good time to start the iron class, not to mention, the tax income of the iron class is very small, but the fifteenth tax one, even if Your Majesty receives the world's iron class, it will not gain much! It's even more ......" Bi Ziyan answered, and there was another sentence at the back, which made a commotion, this sentence, Bi Ziyan said to his mouth, and swallowed it back. ,

"Oh, how do I count my class in the pit?" Yang Gai asked again, the steel industry of the Ming Dynasty was beyond his expectations.

"Back to Your Majesty, I have a lot of changes in the iron class, Taizu set it as fifteen taxes and one, and because there was too much iron, later the local government changed to levy silver, from 10,000 catties of iron to eight dollars to two taels of silver tax, so it is said that there is not much tax." Bi Ziyan hurriedly explained.

"Fifteen taxes one? …… Ten thousand catties of one or two taels of silver tax? ......" Yang Gai frowned again, one-fifteenth of the output of 100 million catties of steel should be six or seven million catties ......, this figure seems to be higher than the steel output he has now......

“…… In other words, I can actually receive six or seven million catties of iron, right? "Yang Reform has to be calculated like this, if it is calculated according to 10,000 catties of iron or two taels of silver, then 100 million catties of iron is not an iron class with a maximum of 20,000 taels of silver?

"Back to Your Majesty, yes, now the price of iron is cheap, only a few to more than ten Wen per catty, therefore, even if it is seven million catties of iron, Your Majesty can sell it for at most seventy or eighty thousand taels of silver, not to mention that now it is silver that is changed, therefore, the minister thinks that this iron class is really not worth doing, even if it is done, it will not be able to collect much silver, and it will be a waste of energy......" Bi Ziyan hurriedly explained the mystery to the emperor, for fear that the emperor would act in this direction indiscriminately.

"Seventy or eighty thousand taels of silver? Twenty thousand taels of silver? So less? "Yang Reform wondered, millions of catties of iron are only this bit of silver? If it is converted into a tax, it will be less, and the tax in the Ming Dynasty will be regarded as more and more collected.

"Back to Your Majesty, if you calculate according to the iron class, there is indeed only this bit of silver, but there is a difference between iron and iron, and the price of iron can be much higher than the price of iron, and there is still a considerable gap in this, so Your Majesty, the iron class is really not suitable to move!" Bi Ziyan hurriedly explained why there is only this bit of silver, the gap in this is quite large, the tax is paid according to the iron, the actual sale is ironware, after the processing of ironware, the price, is much higher than iron, this processing fee, can never be reflected in the tax.

"Oh, I kind of get it, that is, even if I asked them to pay taxes, and they did, but in fact, they paid taxes according to the price of iron, and in fact they did business, and they all sold iron tools, so there's a problem, right? Didn't I get it right? ...... "Yang Reform somewhat understands, why the Ming Dynasty's taxes are so low, this tax policy of the Ming Dynasty is simply a big sieve full of loopholes, and it is no different from nothing, you are embarrassed to let others not take advantage of loopholes."

"Back to Your Majesty, yes, I am towards the iron class, which is extremely low, only fifteen taxes and one, and the actual charge is lower, if you count this again, this iron class is really almost none, but it is only tens of thousands of taels, therefore, the minister feels that His Majesty wants to use the iron class, but it is not worth ......" Bi Ziyan strongly persuaded the emperor not to use the iron class, not to speak for anyone, but that there is not much in this iron class at all, even if the teachers mobilize the people to get the iron class all over the world, there is not much, and compared with the emperor's pen of 100,000 yuan every time, it is really a waste of labor and money.

"......" Yang reform is convinced, the Ming Dynasty still has such a strange tax policy, no wonder Chongzhen can't make up the silver when pants, the Ming Dynasty can last for two hundred years, it is simply a miracle, it seems that the emperor of the Ming Dynasty should be issued a medal, praising them for doing everything possible to maintain the social stability of the Ming Dynasty.

"Your Majesty, I don't know if I should say it if I have something to say!" Sun Yuanhua, who was standing on the side, saw that the emperor was talking about the iron class, and the problem between iron and iron, hesitated a few times, and couldn't help but interject.

"Just say it." Yang Reform said, at this time, Yang Reform can be regarded as finding some doorways, the Ming Dynasty's iron class, the iron and steel industry, including the derived coal mining industry, etc., the water is not ordinary deep, if you want to insert a foot, you still have to be prepared.

"Your Majesty, when the minister cast the cannon in Tianjin, it was also considered to be more iron, just to calculate the saber of our dynasty, if it is calculated according to iron, but it is only a few tens of yuan, but if it is made into a knife, according to the price of the knife, it is worth at least three or four hundred Wen, and if it is a little better, it is more expensive, seven or eight hundred Wen,......" Sun Yuanhua also gave Bi Ziyan a helpful voice, he is more sensitive to iron and is more well-informed, originally he didn't care too much, but now when he heard the emperor talk about this, he also said it, and was ready to give the emperor a reference.

"Oh......" Yang Reform nodded, it is considered to make the inside story of the steel industry in the Ming Dynasty clearer, that is, the Ming Dynasty almost did not collect taxes on the steel industry, at least the central government did not get much tax, the development of the steel industry in the Ming Dynasty is quite vigorous, and the annual steel output of tens of thousands of tons is no pressure, if it is more than 100,000 tons, it is also possible. ,

“…… Oh, that is, if it's iron, it's not worth much, and if it's iron, it's very valuable, isn't it? Yang Reform asked, figuring out the situation, Yang Reform began to ask about others, as for the big sieve tax system in the Ming Dynasty, Yang Reform was convinced, and he didn't plan to think of a way on that.

"Back to Your Majesty, yes." Bi Ziyan replied.

“…… In other words, instead of collecting iron lessons, I might as well sell iron tools myself, right? Yang Gengai figured out the inside story of the steel industry in the Ming Dynasty, and also understood what he should do, which was not in conflict with the established line, and he originally planned to sell ironware.

Bi Ziyan and Sun Yuanhua looked at each other and agreed.

"Master Sun, it seems that I can't sell ironware anymore, hehehe......" After figuring out the current situation of the steel industry in the Ming Dynasty, Yang Gai said to Sun Chengzong with amusement.

"Back to Your Majesty, it should indeed be like ......this" Sun Chengzong frowned, now in this warm pavilion, between these few words, it can be regarded as revealing the inside story of the Ming Dynasty's pit mining, whether it is revealed, the emperor knows it, sell ironware, sell ironware, as for the people to compete for profit or something, Sun Chengzong doesn't want to talk about this now, he can't collect taxes, and the emperor is not allowed to sell ironware, does he let the emperor dig up silver himself? What about the expenses of the border army, the new army? How do you defend yourself? In the face of these realistic things, Sun Chengzong was not willing to talk about competing with the people, but hoped that the emperor's business would be better, at least the border army could be paid.

"Hehehehe......" Yang Reform learned the inside story of the steel industry in the Ming Dynasty, helpless, sad and cheerful laughed, helpless is the Ming Dynasty's tax system is too helpless, but also to the Ming Dynasty's ability to mobilize feel sad, at least hundreds of millions of catties of steel production every year, but in wartime, to the moment of life and death, even one percent of the steel output has not been transferred to the military industry, if one percent of the steel output can be transferred to the military industry, a young easy to produce a thousand thousand pounds of franc machine without ......pressure, this is the sorrow of the Ming Dynasty... ..., the refreshing is that since everyone has made this industry so prosperous, it just so happens that you can get involved, the larger the base of this heavy industry, the better the industrialization will be.

"By the way, I summoned a few people here today, in addition to asking about the steel matter, I just want to talk about my plans, you are all my own people, I won't hide it, after you go out, don't talk nonsense, remember to keep it secret, you know?" Yang Gengai laughed for a while, and began to officially arrange and promote heavy industry.

"Minister's order." Several people immediately agreed.

"Speaking of which, there are two sides to this matter, the first is that I am going to vigorously promote a new type of carriage, which is the kind of four-wheeled carriage; Second, I am ready to build a large heavy industry base...... "Yang reform, with some helplessness and sourness, began to arrange industrialization.

Bi Ziyan and Sun Yuanhua listened, and looked at the emperor in surprise, not knowing what kind of play this was, Sun Chengzong still stood there calmly, as if this matter had nothing to do with him.

"The first aspect, the implementation of the new carriage, and divided into several steps, first, to our dynasty post all equipped with new carriages, in our dynasty to set up a land transportation network, our dynasty to all the states and counties are connected, of course, I mean to use the carriage to connect, I to the post system configuration of the carriage, is a carriage that can carry people, generally can carry ten people, later, the post of the post, in the imperial court to transport official documents and letters at the same time, but also responsible for the transportation of this transportation network, responsible for transporting people...... "Yang reform began to lay out his own ideas.

Yes! Sun Chengzong had heard of the emperor's plan, went back and thought about it, and felt that the feasibility was very high, Bi Ziyan and Sun Yuanhua heard about this for the first time, and they were so surprised that they couldn't close their mouths, this plan is too big, and the emperor's handiwork is inevitably too big.

"Hehe, Bi Qing's family has something to say." Looking at Bi Ziyan's appearance of scratching his ears and cheeks, Yang Gengai asked with a smile.

"Your Majesty, this, this is too wasteful, how much silver does this cost?" Bi Ziyan said anxiously, his first reaction was that this time he had to ask for a lot of silver, all the post stations in the world were equipped with carriages, or four-wheeled new carriages, the emperor began to sprinkle silver all over the sky again, although the emperor now has a lot of silver, but it is not this Safa! Bi Ziyan hurriedly dissuaded the emperor.

Sun Yuanhua also looked at the emperor in shock, the emperor's idea was too unbelievable, all the post stations were equipped with four-wheeled carriages, how much silver did it cost? Sun Yuanhua felt that he couldn't count it. ,

"It's not much, it's just four or five thousand...... Yang Gengai explained with a smile.

Four or five thousand!! Bi Ziyan and Sun Yuanhua widened their eyes again, isn't that much? The Emperor of Affection is rich now, and this amount of money is really not eye-catching, according to sixty taels and one frames, it is less than 300,000 taels, and this bit of silver may indeed be nothing to the emperor today.

The two of them were shocked from the beginning, and they slowly calmed down, and suddenly heard about the emperor's plan, which was indeed scary enough, the whole world! Anything that touches him is an astronomical amount, but really, if you think about the silver in the emperor's hand now, the 300,000 yuan is indeed not much, and the emperor deducts a little bit from his fingers, which is more than this. Now the question is, why did the emperor do this? Is it just that there is more money to burn?

"The minister is stupid, I don't know what Your Majesty is talking about, the minister thinks, Your Majesty is by no means as simple as simply matching carriages to the post guards, there must be a deep meaning in this!" Bi Ziyan went from being shocked at the beginning to now trying to understand some questions, and began to ask the emperor detailed questions.

As soon as Bi Ziyan said, Sun Yuanhua, who was still a little confused, suddenly understood, the emperor had nothing to eat, and he was holding on to the unjust silver? There's definitely a purpose.

"It's nothing, it's just taking advantage of the postal system, and speaking of which, it's also a matter of annoyance these days." Yang explained.

"I beg your majesty to advise me on the maze." Bi Ziyan continued to ask, what else does the emperor have to worry about? Didn't you just receive tens of millions of silver? Still not happy, huh?

"Isn't it early this year? All over the country have reported abnormal weather, think this year is another year of drought, from the current situation, the area affected by the north is quite large, almost all have been affected, but, look at the situation, I am afraid that it is not the situation of last year's Shaanxi that kind of harvest, it is estimated that the disaster is going to be affected, but it is also a reduction in production, not to a large area of harvest, this situation, you have thought about how to solve it? Yang Gengai reminded.

"......" several people were reminded by the emperor, and immediately started to think about the problem, this year's natural disasters have indeed been put on the agenda, and several early dynasties have talked about it. Because last year's emperor had a "forecast" that the drought would continue, therefore, as soon as the weather was abnormal this year, it was immediately reported to all parts of the country, so that the imperial court could prepare for disaster relief, and now the emperor has money, if he is affected by the disaster here, he can be exempted from taxes, not to mention, maybe he can also get a relief money, no matter how bad he is, he will not lose his black yarn hat because of the late report of the disaster, last year, the governor of Shaanxi was not the head was borrowed by the emperor, the reason is to conceal the disaster, although it was not borrowed, but it is scary enough, therefore, there is a movement this year, Officials from all over the country immediately reported the disaster.

"The minister knows, what does Your Majesty mean is that these equipped carriages are used to transport those disaster victims? Your Majesty, is this for disaster relief? Bi Ziyan took the lead in making up the emperor's intentions, and said happily, after all, he deals with disasters in various places every day, and he knows best about the situation of disasters reported in various places, and half of the Ming Dynasty is reporting the disaster situation, but Bi Ziyan's head is bigger, and he is worrying about how to relieve the disaster, and he really can't think of any good way, nothing more than to do what the emperor did, go downstream, use the river to relieve disasters, or use sea ships to transport people, but the problem is that this area is too wide, most of the Ming Dynasty, All engage in that kind of immigration officer, how many immigration officers do you have to do this? How much silver does this cost? The other is to send some relief money or something according to the traditional method, but this is also a lot of silver, and Bi Ziyan, who is longer than careful budgeting, is reluctant to spend so much silver, besides, this year's disaster relief, so what about next year? Do the same? In a few years, it was more than the emperor's immigrant spent more money.

"Yes, this is for disaster relief!" Yang Gengai nodded and smiled.

"Your Majesty is really Shengming, this method is indeed a wonderful method, it is really a good idea to transport the victims of most of the Ming Dynasty with post delivery all over the world, in this way, it does not cost much money, you can completely solve this problem, and by the way, it can also speed up the delivery of my official documents, so that it is really a lot of ...... one stone" Bi Ziyan first figured out the key to it, and if the situation of the disaster and the post delivery are considered together, the problem is really solved.

Sun Yuanhua has been immersed in the world of steel all day long, and he is still relatively slow in this regard, and he doesn't have so many details to refer to, and he didn't react to what Bi Ziyan said, he was in the clouds. ,

Sun Chengzong listened to Bi Ziyan's words, but he couldn't stop nodding.

"This disaster relief matter, I will talk about it later, I will talk about it first, how to do it......" Yang Gengai saw that he persuaded Bi Ziyan, and he didn't want to say anything, so he was ready to arrange it directly.

"Your Majesty, please say that this is really a sharp weapon for relief, and the minister agrees." Bi Ziyan changed his anxious look and became bright.

"The second is to gradually establish urban public transportation on the basis of post delivery." Yang Gai said the second point.

"Your Majesty, why is this?" Bi Ziyan asked puzzled.

"It's nothing, it's just to let the post delivery system earn some money and subsidize relief, so, although the natural disaster post delivery is equipped with a carriage, in fact, I don't need to spend any money to maintain the operation of my own, in addition to spending less money, convenient relief, but also can get a world-wide, timely and effective post delivery system, isn't it great?" Yang explained.

"The minister has been taught, and His Majesty is really a saint." Bi Ziyan thought about it, and was relieved, and quickly understood what the emperor was referring to, and said with emotion.

Sun Yuanhua is still vague, now most of the disaster situation in the Ming Dynasty, he still doesn't know the situation, so there are some people who don't understand too much, hearing Bi Ziyan is happy and convinced, he knows, probably this is a good thing, and he has to think about it again.

"The third, this matter, or the second major event, is related to the heavy industry base." After speaking, Yang Gengai looked at Sun Yuanhua.

"......" Sun Yuanhua looked up at the emperor, not knowing why.

"You should have heard about me subsidizing shipbuilding in Jiangnan, right?" Yang asked Gengai.

"Back to Your Majesty, the minister knows." Several people replied.

"Now, I plan to subsidize the ...... who buy horse-drawn carriages in the same way as subsidizing shipbuilding," Yang Gai finished speaking, looking at the few people present.

Sun Chengzong is still the same old look. Bi Ziyan frowned, and Sun Yuanhua was even more inexplicable.

"Your Majesty, the minister is really confused." Bi Ziyan saw that Sun Chengzong didn't plan to speak, so he asked himself.

"Oh, what's the confusion?" Yang asked Gengai.

"Back to Your Majesty, I don't understand, what does this have to do with disaster relief? Those who can afford carriages are all eunuchs, or wealthy merchants, and His Majesty gives them subsidies, isn't this the state money to supply the eunuchs and wealthy merchants? Your Majesty, how will this make the people of the world think? Bi Ziyan didn't agree with this.

"It's nothing, this is actually not just a subsidy to the rich, I plan to divide the four-wheeled carriage into several grades, and subsidize different grades for different grades, in fact, the real beneficiary is still a lot of ordinary people's ......" For this matter, Yang Reform can only try his best to explain.

"Your Majesty, this matter, the minister thinks, there is still something wrong, that ordinary people can afford such a huge carriage, the minister remembers, the carriage is cheap for fifty taels, even if His Majesty subsidizes twenty percent, it will cost forty taels, how many families can afford such a carriage? How many of them are ordinary people as His Majesty said? Bi Ziyan asked rhetorically.

"Hehe, the price of the carriage can actually be reduced to a few taels, if you add subsidies, you can completely control the price at five or six taels, this price should be acceptable to ordinary people." Yang Gai looked at Bi Ziyan, who was getting more and more impulsive the more he spoke, and explained.

"This ...... Six taels? This ...... "Bi Ziyan couldn't stand this kind of price plunge for a while."

"If you don't use horses, but donkey carts, or even ox carts, the price will be lower, this four-wheeled carriage can be much heavier than a two-wheeled carriage, and it can easily be loaded with more than 1,000 catties, if it is a country cargo, there is no problem with loading 1,500 catties, I think, the people in the countryside will always like it, and it can be regarded as I give some benefits to the people of the world......," Yang explained reform.

"But, this, Your Majesty, the minister still has to say that by doing this, it is inevitable that there will be some feelings of cutting off the poor and helping the rich......" Bi Ziyan still did not loosen much, and did not approve of the emperor doing this.

"Hehe, Bi Qing's family may not understand the meaning of this." Yang Reform had to explain to Bi Ziyan from another aspect, how big the advantages of the four-wheeled carriage are, and only later people know, the loading capacity, speed of these small or single considerations, there is really no problem, but if these little advantages are gathered, multiplied by many years, and then multiplied by the huge population base, this number is astronomical, which is something that ordinary people usually do not pay attention to, but it is a real thing.

"Your Majesty, please." Bi Ziyan is becoming more and more in the style of a minister, the emperor didn't explain it to him clearly, he didn't accept it alive or dead. ,

"I'm asking you, it's true that a four-wheeled carriage is more loaded than a two-wheeled carriage." Yang Gengai asked with a smile.

"Back to Your Majesty, this is indeed true, an ordinary two-wheeled carriage is not easy to load five or six hundred catties, but a four-wheeled carriage can easily fit a thousand catties, this, the minister knows." Bi Ziyan replied seriously, he also has a four-wheeled carriage, a few people sit on it, the same as playing, it is indeed easier to use than two-wheeled, this is for sure, two-wheeled, you sit on it, you can't move, if there are more people sitting, the position is not right, it has a great impact on the carriage, from this point of view, the four-wheeled carriage is not stronger than the two-wheeled one.

"Four-wheeled carriages run faster than two-wheeled ones, right? It's also true that the carriage wasn't that bumpy, right? Yang Reform explained.

"Back to Your Majesty, it's true that it's not so upset, but it's faster than two rounds, but it's not necessarily." Bi Ziyan asked rhetorically.

"Bi Qing's family should also go out in a carriage, how far can you run in a day as a two-wheeled carriage?" Yang Gengai asked with a smile.

"This, back to Your Majesty, the minister is an official outside all the year round, often goes out far away, two-wheeled carriage, if you travel a long distance, walk fifty or sixty miles a day, no matter how many people can't stand the bumps, this minister knows,...... Oh, I see, Your Majesty means that if the carriage is less bumpy, this person can sit longer and run farther every day, right? If this is calculated, it is true that the four-wheeled carriage runs longer than the two-wheeled one, and it can also be said that it is faster......" Bi Ziyan said and suddenly understood, the four-wheeled carriage is not so bumpy, and people can sit longer, so if you are in a hurry, it is naturally not fifty or sixty miles a day, and it is no problem to walk ninety miles.

"Yes, it's good that the Qing family can understand, in fact, the two-wheeled carriage is to press part of the weight of the carriage on the horse, and the four-wheeled carriage is all pressed on the wheels, and the horse is only responsible for pulling the cart, so the same horse is naturally four-wheeled to run farther, and the horse has strength, so it will naturally run faster." Yang Gengai explained with a smile.

"This ...... It seems to make sense...... Bi Ziyan explained like this, combined with the situation of his own carriage, think about it, it is indeed like this.

"Then calculate that a person can double the cargo capacity of a horse-drawn carriage, and the speed of the carriage can also be increased by at least three or four percent, so that after a year, how much cargo does this person have to pull, and how many miles does he have to drive? How much time do you have to save? This is a person's year, but what about his life? How many people are there in the world? How much is the extra cargo capacity, the increased mileage, and the time saved? Can Bi Qing's family give me an answer? Yang Gai said with a smile.

"This ......," Bi Ziyan's words to the emperor flickered and fainted. The emperor's words also impacted his thinking, making Bi Ziyan feel suddenly enlightened, enlightened, and suddenly enlightened, why didn't he think of it?

"A person's extra carrying capacity, saved hours, and extra mileage may not be nothing, and I can't see much advantage, and there is no need to even care, but as an emperor, I should consider the problem from the perspective of the people of the world, and if any small problem is multiplied by the people of the world, it is a big problem, I say this, can the Qing family understand?" Yang Gai continued to explain.

"Back to Your Majesty, this should be an astronomical number, when it is countless, the number is huge, the minister can not calculate, the minister is happy to obey, His Majesty thinks, several times higher than the minister, His Majesty is standing in the world people to see the problem, the minister can only stand at the bottom of the well to see the sky, really ashamed, Your Majesty's policy, seems inappropriate, in fact, it does save countless hours for the people of the world, the distance, increased countless loads, although from a small point of view, is a trivial matter not worth mentioning, but if you look at the whole world, it is a big problem that has to be paid attention to, Your Majesty's policy is fully approved by the minister. Bi Ziyan said in surrender.

"Well, it's good that the Qing family can understand, if the four-wheeled carriage can be popularized, it will have a great role in promoting the circulation of goods, and it will also greatly promote the price of goods. Although I have spent some money now, but to some extent, these money have been distributed to the people of the whole world through various channels, does the Qing family say? Yang Gai said.

"The minister understands, the minister bows to the court, His Majesty is strategic, what he sees and thinks, it is really several layers higher than the minister, open source and reduce expenditure, it has always been the only way to manage money, Your Majesty's move seems to be a cost, but it is a real throttling." Bi Ziyan is completely convinced, not to mention anything else, let's just say that this grain transportation problem and the grain at the border gates, if they are replaced by four-wheeled carriages, how much grain will be saved? It is not easy to transport grain at the border gates, five stone grain is transported from the south, transported to the place, only a few buckets are left, this kind of terrible consumption, is consumed in transportation, if each time you can transport a little more, you can run a little farther every day, undoubtedly, there will not be only a few buckets of grain left so terrifying, if you save a few buckets of grain at a time, over the years, plus such a large Ming Dynasty, these saved numbers, can only be described as terrifying. RO！！