Bi Ziyan calculated an account, and finally understood why the emperor wanted to vigorously promote the four-wheeled carriage, indeed, at a glance, this matter is not worth it, and it is not necessary, it costs too much, it is purely burning money, but when standing at the height of the entire Ming Dynasty to look at the problem, this angle suddenly changed, this extra cargo, extra mileage, saved time, when it is massive, immeasurable, these are real people's power, if the four-wheeled carriage is implemented, This invisibly gives the people real benefits.

"It's good that Bi Qing's family understands, and I have already instructed Fu Mingde to classify the carriages and classify them, and reduce the cost as much as possible so as to facilitate the promotion of ......; I have already instructed Liu Mao to try it out, and I still only have a preliminary idea of how to do it, and I have to wait for Liu Mao to sum up some experience before it can be finalized, I have already told Liu Mao to try to open the postal carriage and public carriage, and he may be running through ......the state at this time," Yang Reform said with a smile.

"Your Majesty, this couldn't be better, it should be more appropriate." Bi Ziyan thought for a while and replied. If you have experience, it is indeed better to promote it than to suddenly come up and promote it on a large scale.

Sun Chengzong was silent on the sidelines. Sun Yuanhua is enlightened.

"After talking about the carriage, I will also say what is called a heavy industrial base......" Yang Gengai took a sip of tea and said, debating with his own imperial party just now, his mouth was dry.

Several people looked at the emperor in puzzlement, what is this heavy industry base? It's a weird name.

“…… There is a question that I can't figure out. Yang Gengai took a sip of tea and began to continue.

"Your Majesty, please." Sun Chengzong said, this heavy industry base, Sun Chengzong knows some, but the emperor said those reasons, it is indeed a bit far-fetched, for this question, Sun Chengzong is quite cautious, see the emperor asked, and directly take over the conversation, this matter, and the military has a lot to do with this, ask this, is the reason, because it seems that the emperor's heavy industry base is the person in charge of Sun Yuanhua, and Sun Yuanhua is a cannon cast, that is to say, this heavy industry base is associated with cannon casting and the military.

"Just like what Bi Qingjia said just now, why does our dynasty produce more than 100 million steel every year, why do we defeat Liaodong again and again, and why hasn't even one percent of this more than 100 million steel been converted into weapons? I thought, if one percent were turned into weapons, then our dynasty should easily have more than a thousand cannons, and if we defended with these thousand cannons, how could the eastern captives easily attack the city and plunder the land? If this steel can be turned into guns, how many soldiers can be equipped? Yang Gengai moistened his throat, and then said with a hint of pain.

“…… This ...... the emperor's statement made several people present suffocated, how to answer this question? There are many issues involved, and it is not as simple as an iron problem.

"1,000 cannons a year, but it only accounts for one percent of our steel production, how many years has the Dongyu risen in Liaodong now? In this way, how many cannons do you have to count each year? Let's not say that there are more than 10,000 doors......" Yang Reform still said with a little sadness.

“…… This ......" several people's heads seem to have been hammered, and their eyes are full of gold stars, which is really uncomfortable, and they feel that this thing that the emperor said is indeed a big problem, but there are too many involved, and there are too many root causes, but they don't know how to answer it all of a sudden.

“…… Your Majesty, these are all iron smelted by the people, and the iron for cannons cast by the Ministry of Industry and the War Bureau are two different things, and they should not be confused......" Bi Ziyan didn't know where to start, so he could only pick up one casually and argue.

"Does the Qing family mean that there is no relationship between steel and the survival of the country?" Yang Gengai said with a little sadness. …,

“…… Your Majesty, the minister didn't mean that, the minister meant that the people are not allowed to cast cannons, so, this ......" Bi Ziyan just made an excuse for his statement, and felt that this excuse was not so good, what was that, Bi Ziyan seemed to think of something, and he couldn't say it for a while.

"If the skin does not exist, the hair will be attached? The country is gone, who will protect the people? For example, once I enter the customs, what should I do? Thousands of people in the world are slaves to Dongyu? At the moment of life and death, he would rather use the amount of steel to make a profit, but he can't use one percent to cast a cannon to resist foreign humiliation? Don't you think, there's a problem here? Yang asked sadly and solemnly.

"This ......" The heads of several people were dizzy when the emperor asked, and the answer should actually be there, but he couldn't remember it for a while.

"I've always thought, I have a vast land, a territory of thousands of miles, and a population of tens of thousands, why can't I have a small tribe with a population of only tens of thousands......" Yang Gai continued to ask.

“…… It has been ten years since I sat in the East to the present, and I hurriedly began to introduce foreign cannons, and I began to think about casting cannons, and the technology of casting cannons has to be learned from the Yi people. Yang continued to ask.

"......" several of the emperor's henchmen, who were asked by the emperor's question, originally felt that there were many reasons to say, but every reason to say it, and it felt a little far-fetched, saying that it was a reason, but it was just an excuse, this word has been blocked in the throat and can't be said, deflated and uncomfortable, the emperor asked here, and there are still some reasons, and now I don't know how to say it, and the things that the court is wasted are not the same.

"I remember, my dynasty is known as the heavenly kingdom, but now, it has been reduced to the point where it is difficult to level a small tribe, and against this small tribe, what is relied on is actually the firearms of the people, don't you think these problems are ridiculous?" Yang asked again.

"......" A few people are still talking in their throats, this is not the first time they have heard the emperor say it, this is really hurtful, hurt self-esteem, what happened to the dignified Celestial Empire? Why can't you beat others here, and not as good as others there?

"Do you know who first built the cannon?" Yang asked again.

"Your Majesty, do you mean artillery?" Sun Chengzong asked.

"Well, not bad, artillery." Yang reformed.

"Back to Your Majesty, if the minister remembers correctly, it should be the time of the former Song Dynasty, and there is a record of fighting with artillery, but at that time, the power of artillery was far less than today." Sun Chengzong replied.

"Yes, gunpowder was invented in the Song Dynasty of China, and then there was artillery, how many years has it been now?" Yang asked Gengai.

"Back to Your Majesty, it's been seven hundred years, to say the least." Sun Chengzong replied.

"Yes, seven hundred years, seven hundred years ago, what was the state in the far West, did they know what gunpowder was, what was artillery? But now? But it was my Ming Dynasty that bought their cannons, and their cannons were even more powerful, don't you think, for hundreds of years, others have been improving, but my dynasty is stagnating? If this kind of development continues, the artillery and muskets of the people will become more and more powerful, and the firearms of our DPRK will continue to stagnate, what will be the situation in the future? Yang continued to ask.

"Back to Your Majesty, subject to the control of others......" Sun Chengzong replied.

"Wrong, not only is it controlled by others, but there will be days when I will be a slave in the future, don't you think that a small Dongyu will make my dynasty a big loss of vitality and exhaust my energy, and in the future, those Yi people will have more powerful firearms, what should I do?" Yang reformed.

"Your Majesty, this won't, I'll catch up, it will never be worse than the firearms of the Yiren, I will be afraid of a small group of Yiren......" Sun Yuanhua listened to what the emperor said, and his blood came up, it was really uncomfortable, and he couldn't help but argue. …,

"According to the situation of our dynasty, does the vast land have anything to do with resisting foreign insults? Isn't my dynasty producing 100 million catties of iron every year? Dongyu has risen for more than ten years, and how many catties of iron have become firearms? Turned into a cannon? Turned into a weapon to defend against foreign insults? Yang Reform felt even more unhappy, this problem is not to say that it's okay, the more I say that the more unjust I feel in my heart, the more angry I am, that gas, blocked in my heart is uncomfortable, obviously there is a strong force, but I can't use it, which makes people anxious.

"Your Majesty, it is a fact that the state affairs are difficult, but now that I have Your Majesty, these are just clowns who jump off the beam, and they will be crushed into powder, Your Majesty, you must not be presumptuous" Bi Ziyan couldn't help but refute. Even if he has a thousand reasons, he can't say it, and every reason is an excuse. For example, in fact, those who smelt iron pay taxes, can you say that it has nothing to do with the abundance of land and resources and resisting foreign insults? But how much does it matter? The more you talk about it, the more you can panic, and the more you get into it, what Daming has become what it is now, is not something that can be cleared all at once.

"The Qing family is also an understanding person, and they are talking nonsense again, the thinking of the Qing family is still in the dream that they have woven for themselves, 'knowing oneself and knowing the other, and not being defeated in a hundred battles', this sentence should also be understood by the Qing family, and now the Yi people have traveled tens of thousands of miles, and it took a year to come to my Ming Dynasty to preach, but what about my Ming Dynasty? How many people have been to the Yiren? And how much do you know about them? And how to crush them into powder? The words of the ancestors have been regarded as wind in our ears, and if it goes on like this, alas...... I am fully aware of the Yi people, and I am completely ignorant of the Yi people...... Alas......" Yang lamented.

"Your Majesty......" Bi Ziyan was criticized by the emperor, and his heart was even more blocked, the emperor's self-deprecation made him really sad, and the emperor's words hurt his self-esteem.

"Your Majesty, the minister thinks that the Yi people are tens of thousands of miles away from my Ming Dynasty, even if they can come to our court, it can't explain anything, do they still dare to come to beat my Ming Dynasty? This is not a problem, but it is necessary to prevent them from touching the details of our court, and they should not worry about waiting for the ministers to build more powerful cannons. Sun Yuanhua hurriedly persuaded the self-deprecating emperor.

"The Qing family is also talking nonsense, and the Qing family has also seen "The Complete Map of the World", how can they say such conceited words? How big is the world? How much does my Ming Dynasty occupy, do you know that there is no dynasty as big as my Ming Dynasty who has carefully touched the bottom of my dynasty and come to trouble my dynasty? "Yang reformed and denied Sun Yuanhua.

"Your Majesty, this, I am a ......, how can those Yi people ......" Sun Yuanhua just said a few words, the rest of the words were blocked, he couldn't say it, he didn't say it, he himself followed Xu Guangqi to learn the Yi people's knowledge, how could he not know the strengths of the Yi people, at this time it was a hot head for the emperor to ask, blood and qi surged, a little excited to do so, as soon as the words came out, he knew that he was wrong.

"Don't you think that a country that can make a clairvoyant mirror, a country that can make a clairvoyant mirror, a country that can budget celestial phenomena more accurately than my dynasty, a country that can travel tens of thousands of miles across the ocean, can be summed up by a simple barbarian? You two might as well calculate, these things are involved in those things, and how much stronger is my dynasty than them? Yang asked rhetorically.

"......" Bi Ziyan and Sun Yuanhua were speechless when asked, and Sun Yuanhua was even more speechless, according to what the emperor said, this Ming Dynasty is a giant who looks very powerful, but is actually a pedantic, bloated and fat giant, the so-called powerful is just a layer of skin.

"Almost everyone has been telling me that my Ming Dynasty is a vast land, a vast area, rich in products, and rich in people, while others are just barbarians, but uncivilized savages, and it is not worth taking a look, but if you think about the situation in the past ten years, it may not be, around my Daming, a group of uncivilized savages have defeated our dynasty again and again, lost thousands of miles, and lost countless people; In the distance, another group of people brought me more powerful cannons, firearms, clairvoyant mirrors, brought four-wheeled carriages, and more powerful countless, and my dynasty, it seems to be extremely powerful, but in fact it is extremely weak, and the defeat of the Donglu is a good example, not to mention taxes, money, just from less than one percent of the steel output into military power, it is enough to explain the problem, if I fought with the Donglu back then, we quickly transformed the world's steel production into military power, Become a weapon, become a musket, a cannon, armor, not to mention much, a hundredth, is enough to create more than a thousand cannons, if it can be transformed into one, then at least more than 10,000 cannons can be cast, these endless firearms, weapons, armor and armed soldiers, can it be that the East can still be rampant? Yang asked reform. …,

A few people were speechless when asked, the land is vast, the territory is vast, and the abundance of products is absolute, but unfortunately, the border passes are often unable to pay food, the officers and soldiers will collapse at the touch of a button, and there are some firearms, but the powerful ones such as Hongyi cannons and firecrackers must be imported from the Yiren, this problem, although it is a problem, although everyone knows it, but they don't know how to explain it, there are too many problems in it, but it is not only a problem of weapons.

“…… What Your Majesty said is true, our dynasty seems to be strong, but in fact, the national strength is transformed into combat power, often one in a hundred, so calculated, our dynasty's combat power, is really pitiful, alas, Your Majesty, this matter is not something that can be said at once, steel is transformed into weapons, and it is very important to assemble soldiers, but the corresponding salary, supplies, and training involve more, and this tax is ......" Sun Chengzong said helplessly.

Sun Chengzong is okay, his face can remain calm, but Bi Ziyan hurt his self-esteem, and Sun Yuanhua is even more panicked.

"Master Sun is right, our dynasty will transform national strength into combat power, often less than one hundred, the strength of the whole country to deal with a small tribe, often powerless, if you can quickly transform national strength into combat power, what else is uneven? This problem has plagued me for a long time, and I think about it and feel that only by firmly grasping a number of things that are related to the lifeblood of the imperial court can we do it, and in wartime, it can be quickly transformed into weapons, firearms, and cannons, so as to rapidly expand the strength of our dynasty and avoid a situation similar to that of the Eastern Emperor...... Therefore, it is also said that this heavy industry base is today. Yang reformed.

"What does Your Majesty mean?" Bi Ziyan confused the emperor and asked.

"What I mean is to build a heavy industry base, so that the steel output of this heavy industry base should account for more than a few percent of the world's output, and in peacetime it is like a civilian cast iron sale, and buy and sell it to support itself, and in wartime, it can convert civilian production capacity into military use, and rapidly expand armaments, such as the steel output of my heavy industry base accounts for one percent of the world's steel output, then, in wartime, I want to expand armaments, and at the sound of an order, 10 million catties of steel will become weapons, instead of thinking of introducing advanced weapons when I am fighting a war now, Only in this way can we bring into play the national ......strength of our dynasty when we have fought a war," Yang explained reform.

"Your Majesty, the minister understands." Sun Chengzong replied.

“…… Chancellor understood. Bi Ziyan also said, Bi Ziyan finally remembered something and understood what the emperor meant.

“…… The minister also understood. Sun Yuanhua finally said.

"Okay, you are all my henchmen, it's good to understand, this move, some people may say that I am reckless, just let them say go, the difficulties I am facing in the Ming Dynasty, some people don't want to see, don't want to know, and don't want to solve them, these problems can only be left to me, to you." Yang reformed.

"Your Ministers understand." Several people replied.

"The matter of the heavy industry base, now there is a beginning, Sun Qing's family casts cannons in Tianjin, which is the core of this heavy industry, I plan to move him to the vicinity of Fengrun, where there are iron mines and coal mines, relying on Tianjin, relying on the sea, transportation and resources are extremely rich, but it is a good place......" Yang reformed and said.

"Your Majesty, Abundance? Isn't it the Zunhua Iron Smelting Institute back then? Sun Yuanhua suddenly figured it out and suddenly asked.

"Zunhua Iron Smelting Institute?" Yang Reform didn't understand too much.

"Back to Your Majesty, yes, this place is the former government-run iron smelting station, and it used to be a place for smelting hundreds of thousands of catties of iron every year, millions of catties, but now, it has been abandoned, alas, Your Majesty's words do make sense Ah In the hands of this court, there must be enough iron-smelting yards, otherwise, when it comes to wartime, you can only catch the blind,...... Your Majesty is right, in fact, I have been doing this before, and I am afraid that in case of a war, the court does not have enough steel in its hands, alas, but unfortunately, it is all deserted now, and the minister thinks that it is really necessary to pay attention to this matter, and now that I am facing foreign enemies, the court cannot do without iron ......in the hands of the court," Sun Yuanhua said.

"......" Yang Reform was depressed, didn't he say it earlier, he said that there was a government-run iron smelting institute before, and he just did it directly, where is there so much money? The mouth is dry, it's really a waste of expression, Yang Reform thought of ...... depressedly,