For debate, Tang Haoran is not an expert, but compared with Cai Shaoji, a legal expert from Yale University, he has more than a hundred years of knowledge, and naturally knows what to use to refute him, and at the same time prove the correctness of his views, at least in some way, to prove his correctness.

Just like the justification at this time, this view of "forcing for the people" has been debated for more than half a century in later generations, and Tang Haoran is naturally familiar with it, but the corresponding Cai Shaoji has no way to refute his views, because his starting point is also for the people.

Seeing that he seemed to be in deep thought, Tang Haoran, who knew that the other party was shaking, continued.

"Speaking of the situation in the hutongs and rural areas of the cities in China, Shutang is no stranger, so in your opinion, in terms of the hygiene habits of the people in China, is it necessary to establish a health police to force the people to improve their lives and hygiene habits?"

Although he knew that the power of the health police penetrated deep into the family and harmed the civil rights, but thinking of the current situation in the country, especially the piles of garbage, dung heaps, sewage ponds, mud puddles and the thick putty accumulated on people's clothes in the rural areas of China, Cai Shaoji still nodded as if he was confused, although he agreed with the police's right to health, he still raised his own questions.

"My lord, it's just that the power of the police is too extensive, after all, according to this regulation, the power of the police is completely above the government!"

"It's not about the government!"

Shakening, Tang Haoran continued,

"Rather, these efforts are carried out under the mandate of the government, and these powers can be withdrawn at any time. And like assisting in the promotion of bans, tax collection, household registration, census household registration, etc. The impetus of these efforts. As for this education, although there is not much population in the SAR at present, let alone many school-age children, it is naturally impossible to talk about compulsory education, but what about the future? If an immigrant brings their children here. In order to earn money, he does not let his children go to school, if the education commissioner is in charge, he needs to report to the police first, and then the police will come forward to deal with the matter. ”

As soon as the conversation changed, Tang Haoran talked about the administrative cost again, if there was any benefit to him after soaking in the forum for many years, it was that he cultivated a mouth that was quite good at arguing and the ability to change the topic.

"And if the education commissioner needs to be in charge of a school district, how can he go into the community every day to find out if there are any children in his family who are not going to school? But the police are different. He patrols the community every day and knows the people in the community inside and out. Naturally, he knows whether his children are of school age and whether they are going to school, and if they do not go to school, he can naturally use the power of punishment to discipline his parents and force them to send their children to school. ”

The success of the Meiji Restoration, to a large extent, was actually the success of education, and it was the fundamental reason why the success of education made Japan rich and strong rapidly.

During the Meiji Restoration, Japan used education as a springboard for the revitalization of the nation and its later development. The Meiji government, in order to build Japan into a capitalist country that could resist the invasion of Western powers and compete with international capitalist powers, emphasized the importance of education from the very beginning of its reign. Whether or not they attach importance to education is an important basis for judging the performance of officials at all levels, and some local officials have taken the blame for failing to do a good job in local education. Therefore, it took only 50 years for Japan to complete the path that Britain, France, and other European and American countries had taken more than 200 years in education, and laid a solid foundation for the revitalization of the Japanese nation and economic development.

Whether it is Germany or Japan, they are all through guò education to embark on the road to a strong country, and both without exception have chosen "forced education", and the implementation of "forced education" requires the intervention of strong organs, as a government violence organ of the police is the best choice, of course, now only the reason for mentioning the use of the police to carry out compulsory education, but more to persuade Cai Shaoji, the "Minister of Justice" of the Special Administrative Region, to accept the expansion of police power, although this is the need of the construction of the Special Administrative Region, But more than that, it is the need to rule North Korea in the future.

Even in his heart, he has never regarded the Goryeo sticks as "Chinese people", but for Tang Haoran, who wants to incorporate the peninsula into China's territory in the name of "China", he needs to be "fair" to these sticks, and this police power will be extended from the SAR to the Korean Peninsula, at least on the surface, this strict police rule is only aimed at the North Koreans, but is based on the need to "rebuild Chinese civilization".

"But, my lord, this will cause an unprecedented expansion of the power of the police, and it is very likely that they will abuse the power of the police to oppress the good, so as not to go against the original intention of the adults?"

Although it is said that Mr. Sympathy uses coercive means to force people to change their hygiene habits and force them to send their children to school, Cai Shaoji is still aware of the danger brought about by the expansion of police power, and even in his opinion, this danger is inevitable.

Listening to Cai Shaoji's worries, Tang Haoran thought of the many problems caused by the extension of police power that he saw on the news, but he looked directly at the worry in Cai Shaoji's eyes and said slowly.

"What we are now implementing in the SAR is the New Deal, and the rules and regulations are the most important of them, although the rules refer to the Chinese customary law, but they have introduced the Western legal system, and in a certain way, the laws that have just been learned from the West are applied to the SAR and replace the traditional laws of our country. Therefore, we need to establish the authority of the police, and their authority can be said to be absolute in a certain way. In order to regain the civilization of the Chinese nation, although the punishment we have imposed on the SAR can be described as harsh, it is not without restraint, and what restricts the power of the police is not the reduction of regulations, but the law, so this requires us to have honest and independent judges, and the judges' judgments must be based on the law, and they cannot be arbitrarily bullied, and the law is severe, but it is trustworthy, so that the residents of the SAR can truly understand the authority of public power! ”

After a pause in his voice, he looked directly at Cai Shaoji, and Tang Haoran's expression became grim again.

"So, in the end, all the problems are with you, Shutang, the police exercise their power with the authority of the law, and the court is the place where the people seek legal protection, if the police violate the law, abuse the power of the police, and oppress the good, isn't there still a prosecutor and a court? And a fair trial not only brings justice, but also makes the people and the police aware of the authority of the law! ”

When he picked up the teacup, Tang Haoran took a sip of tea and moistened his throat, and continued.

"Shutang, there is a saying in our country that "you can't enter the yamen", officials are tired of lawsuits, and the people are ashamed of lawsuits, and this is exactly what we need to change, we need to make the people realize that the establishment of the law is to protect them, when they suffer injustice and infringement, only the law can protect them, as for other ......"

Shaking his head, Tang Haoran's eyelids drooped slightly, looked at the teacup in his hand and said silently.

"There is no Qingtian Lord in this world, and there will be no Qingtian Lord to be the master for them, only the law can protect their rights and interests! And when everyone believes in the law, I don't think I need to go to any more Qingtian Lord! ”

"If the judiciary is clear, there is really no need for the Qingtian Lord, but it is the judicial injustice, and the judicial corruption has caused the Chinese people to generally have the Qingtian Lord, who believes that the integrity of a certain official can be the master of it, rather than believing in the law, which cannot but be said to be the sorrow of China's thousands of years of legislation!"

Cai Shaoji's exclamation made Tang Haoran nod in deep understanding.

"Indeed, it is the sorrow of our country's justice, so, Shutang, it is not so much that we learn from Western modern laws to improve our country's laws, but in fact, it is better to learn from the Western judicial system and establish a modern judicial system.

"Your Excellency!"

Raising his head and meeting the eyes of adults, Cai Shaoji said in a deep voice.

"China has a Legalist doctrine as early as the Spring and Autumn Period, but for more than 2,000 years, the Chinese people have never believed in the law, all because the judiciary is not independent, since the Qin period, in the long history, although the imperial court of the past dynasties has set up judicial organs, but its activities are either under the influence of the emperor, or controlled by the prime minister and other organs, and rarely exercise their functions and powers independently, as for the local two are more directly one, there is no independent theory, the implementation of justice depends on the likes and dislikes of officials, officials take the lead in bending the law, how can the people believe in the law? Therefore, except for the great master of the blue sky, the people have nothing to rely on! Naturally, this law has become an ornament and a plaything in the hands of officials, and it is not uncommon to abuse the people and commit violence with the law. ”

"That's why you need to establish the majesty of the law and judicial impartiality in the SAR, so that the people can believe that a fair judiciary is their only protection, and as for the administrative officials, ......?"

Looking at Cai Shaoji, Tang Haoran's voice sank slightly.

"Interfering with the judiciary and obstructing judicial fairness is itself illegal, since it is illegal, if the prosecutor does not prosecute, it is his dereliction of duty, so, for what you said in the past, the judiciary must be independent, otherwise there will be no justice at all, I also deeply agree with this, Shutang, how about it, do you have confidence?"

"Faith?"

Shaking his head, Cai Shaoji said with a stern expression.

"Confidence is not needed for judicial justice, my lord, only the rule of man needs faith! I think that a special zone with a clear judiciary does not need the confidence of the presiding officer to maintain its clarity, but relies on its system! My lord! (To be continued......)