In the round of 16 of the 3rd "Ying's Cup", Li Xiaoqiang encountered Yitian Jiji. What he encountered was Kiki Ida, who won the runner-up in this competition in real history.

Assuming that we are entangled in the "inertia of history", then it can be considered that this is not a good sign. However, at this time, no one thinks that Li Xiaoqiang's signing is not good. On the contrary, at the moment when the lottery results came out, more people were lamenting Mr. Yitian's bad luck. The two top young masters in the world today, if he plays against Li Shifo, it can be called lucky. But what he met was Li Xiaoqiang, a Li Xiaoqiang who seemed to have been resurrected with full blood, and had just boasted about Haikou, showing a strong desire to win the championship. Many people think that now Mr. Kiki Ita can only ask for more blessings for himself.

Faced with the result of this draw, Li Xiaoqiang also couldn't laugh or cry. He waved his hand at reporter Zhang Da:

"Then what kind of bet, one in six probability, who knows if he will really be drawn. What else to say, of course the gambling contract is canceled, and losing to you is a trivial matter. If I win you, won't what I say at the opening ceremony be a slap in the face? ”

Li Xiaoqiang is the seeded player, and Yitian Kiki is from the first round. In the first round, two Chinese chess players, Ma Xiaofei and Liu Dazhui, passed the test. Together with Li Xiaoqiang and the previous champion Nie Whirlwind, a total of 4 Chinese players played in the second round. According to the principle of "domestic chess players do not meet in advance", Li Xiaoqiang's "one in six probability" is what he meant.

Reporter Zhang said with a hippie smile:

"I think we'd better continue, maybe you'll have a chance to win."

Li Xiaoqiang was furious: "Reporter Zhang, do you also think Yitian can win me?" ”

"Hahahaha......" Reporter Zhang Da laughed happily at this moment:

"Of course I don't believe that Yitian can win you, but I just like to see you eat deflated."

“……”

Since the draw results are out, it is natural to prepare for the second round of the game. There is a rest day between the two rounds. As a chess player who has attracted much attention recently, Li Xiaoqiang was not idle on his rest day, he was interviewed by reporters. Li Xiaoqiang and his fellow reporters Zhang Da talked about many topics. talked about the Three Kingdoms Tournament that ended not long ago, and talked about the pattern of today's world chess world. Talking about the two new world competitions that are about to start. Of course, Li Xiaoqiang also chatted with reporters about a very hot topic at the moment.

"What? You ask me when did the "Deep Blue" of the Go world appear? Hehe, it's hard to say about this question. My attitude towards artificial intelligence is basically the same as my attitude towards aliens. ”

"Aliens? What does this mean? ”

"Let me ask you first, do you believe in the existence of aliens?"

"I ...... Let me ask you, Xiaoqiang, do you believe in the existence of aliens? ”

"I believe, I believe, that in the vastness of the universe, it is absolutely impossible for intelligent life to exist only on Earth. Why do I use the analogy of aliens, because I think artificial intelligence also means the same thing. With the development of human science and technology, the day will definitely come when computer Go defeats human beings. As for what day it will be? That's the same as aliens, maybe a long wait. We don't see it in our lifetime. But it is also possible that he will appear in front of us tomorrow. ”

That's right, what Li Xiaoqiang is talking to reporters about now is a hot topic this year, the "Deep Blue" developed by IBM to challenge the national chess king Kasparov. is also a board game, and it is normal for Go to be compared with the national elephant on the issue of "man-machine war". And on this issue, there has always been a strong sense of superiority in the Go world, so everyone is particularly fond of talking about such topics. I met a reporter who asked about this topic. Reporter Zhang Da and Nie Whirlwind, and even Zhao Zhixun and others from Japan all surrounded him.

All over the world, especially in the Western world, the national elephant is much more popular than Go. So far, according to the statistics of the recorded data. Fewer than 70 countries in the world have played Go. However, in the national arena, FIDE has the second largest number of member states in football, surpassing tennis to rank second in the world. And in the West, chess is known as "intellectual gymnastics". It is said that in Silicon Valley in the United States. When scientists and engineers are educating their children, Olympiad, national elephants and model airplanes are the three basic skills that must be cultivated. Li Xiaoqiang didn't know if this was true. But this says at least one thing. In the social world of the West, you have to know a little bit about the national elephant in order to improve your style.

This is where Go envies the national elephant, Go is obviously more complex and interesting than the national elephant, and the forced style should be higher, but it is not as popular as the national elephant.

Saying that Go is more complicated than the national elephant is, of course, not just the self-talk of the Go world. On this issue, "Commander Hu" in the Chinese chess world has vaguely defended Chinese chess: "The changes in Go are infinite, and the changes in chess are also infinite, since they are all infinity, then I don't think there is any need to dwell on this issue......

However, in the national elephant world, everyone still acknowledges the basic fact that Go is more complicated than the national elephant. For example, a world champion once said, "If you discover a more intelligent civilization than the earth." If they find out that they are playing the same game as humans, then this game must be Go, and there is nothing wrong with that......"

It is said that IBM's "Deeper Blue" will soon challenge Kasparov again, so let's predict what the outcome of the next "man-machine war" will be? ”

"This ......"

Earlier this year, Deep Blue's first chess match with Kasparov ended in Kasparov's victory. Not long ago, IBM announced that the "Deeper Blue" they had developed would soon start a second contest with Kasparov, which was scheduled for the first half of 1997. That's what the journalist was talking about.

Although I am a little envious of the national elephant world, I am even a little gloating that artificial intelligence has been able to challenge the highest level of national elephants. But in the face of the "man-machine war", most people still emotionally prefer humans to win.

"Judging from the situation this year, although the computer has reached a very high level, it should not be so fast to beat Kasparov so quickly, right?"

Nie Whirlwind gave his own judgment, and his judgment also represented the views of most of the people present. Of course, Li Xiaoqiang is not included in this.

"There is no suspense that the computer will win......" Li Xiaoqiang almost blurted out.

When he saw the others, they all looked at him. Li Xiaoqiang said that it was going to be bad. I can't tell you that I already knew about this, do I? Not only did I know that in the "man-machine battle" held in '97, "Deep Blue" not only defeated Kasparov, but in just a few years, in the field of chess, there was no record of mankind beating a machine.

"This and this...... As we all know, the progress of human technology, especially in the field of computers, is often much faster than everyone expected. When it is predicted that it will take 100 years to do it, it turns out that it can be done in 10 or 20 years. What you think will take 10 years to do, you are likely to be able to do it in a year or two...... I remember what Kasparov once said: computers want to beat world champions. That will have to wait until 2010. It was from this experience that I thought that humanity was likely to lose this time......"

Everyone continued to look at Li Xiaoqiang and did not speak. Obviously, Li Xiaoqiang's reason is not convincing. You just said that "there is no suspense that the computer wins". You just based on a broken experience, you dare to say such a thing?

At this time, Li Xiaoqiang had no choice, so he had to move out for another reason:

"Of course, that's not the main thing, the main reason...... I think there is still a difference between the national chess and our Go. If we say that Go is a three-dimensional game, then chess, it is only a two-dimensional game at most. Everybody knows that. The machine has a natural advantage when it comes to solving the two-dimensional problem, which is why I am optimistic that the machine can win......"

Strictly speaking, Li Xiaoqiang's is not a good reason. But that's a good thing for everyone to hear. Everyone is engaged in Go, and of course they would like to hear good things about Go. Therefore, there is no further dwelling on this issue.

Next, everyone continued to talk about topics related to "man-machine war" for a while. At this time, everyone is not limited to chess. also talked about the "deep blue" that may appear in the Go world.

For this issue. There is both consensus and disagreement. The consensus reached by everyone is just like what Li Xiaoqiang just said: the day when computers will defeat the human brain will definitely come, and there should be no objection to this. As for when will this day come? There are many opinions about this, and most people think that they may not see it in their lifetime. There are also a few people such as Li Xiaoqiang who think they can wait until that day.

Of course, the length of time is not the point of contention. Because none of you here are AI professionals. There is no point in arguing on this issue.

The main point of contention: If there is really a "Go Deep Blue", what impact will it have on Go?

For this issue, everyone's controversy is relatively large. Pessimists believe. If there is a day, it should have a big impact on the project of Go. Some of these effects can have considerable negative effects.

There should be some truth to this view. Think about it, in a board game, if the human brain can't play the computer, then people will definitely lose a lot of interest in participating.

Later generations of world chess championship battles often failed to attract sponsorship, and in the Chinese chess world, there are often scandals of chess players using software to cheat. This is the side effect of computers overtaking the human brain.

But on this issue, Li Xiaoqiang is still relatively optimistic:

"There may be problems of one kind or another, but in Go, these problems should not be so serious."

"Oh? Why do you think so? ”

"Because there is a big difference between Go and other board games, and because of this difference, Go should be able to avoid a lot of problems."

"What's the difference?"

"This difference is ......" Saying this, Li Xiaoqiang suddenly turned to Zhao Zhixun, and he said to Zhao Zhixun with a smile: "I remember that Mr. Zhao said a very famous saying, you think that if there is a Go God, then the Go God can make you 2 sons." Do you know what I think about your point of view? ”

"Oh? Li Sang said to listen to it. ”

At this moment, Zhao Zhixun also seemed to be interested. This sentence is indeed Zhao Zhixun's original words. Many people believe that this sentence shows the quality of Zhao Zhixun's modesty. Therefore, Zhao Zhixun also wants to hear Li Xiaoqiang's evaluation of this sentence.

What Zhao Zhixun didn't expect was that Li Xiaoqiang's words surprised everyone:

"I think Mr. Zhao's words are not modest, but a little arrogant, if there is really a chess god, then he will never let you only have 2 pieces, he will definitely let you more. And this, I think, is the biggest difference between Go and other board games! ”

After listening to Li Xiaoqiang's words, everyone was stunned at first, but when everyone understood what Li Xiaoqiang meant, there was a burst of laughter at the scene:

"Hahaha, interesting, really interesting......"

Indeed, Li Xiaoqiang's meaning is not difficult to understand. Why does the appearance of "Deep Blue" have a negative impact on the game of national elephants? It's just like we do with other games, if you always "beat the level", then if you keep playing, it will definitely get boring. And "dark blue" for the national elephant, in fact, is almost the same as "customs clearance". Although it can't be said that it must have reached the top, for example, with 100 points to score, "Deep Blue" may not have a full score of 100 points, but there are still more than 90 points.

So in the Go project, if it is really as Li Xiaoqiang said, human understanding of Go is actually at a relatively low level, then there is no need to worry about the emergence of national elephants.

Because the truth in this is very simple, no matter how artificial intelligence develops, it cannot be separated from human understanding of the problem, it must first learn human thoughts. It can be imagined that even if "Go Deep Blue" really appears in the future, everything about it is first and foremost based on learning from human beings, assuming that the level of human beings is originally low, then even if it surpasses human beings, how high can its level be?

Since they are all low-level, can't the competition between humans and it continue to play?

"Hehe, I don't think we need to continue arguing. In any case, no matter how much this question is argued, there can be no conclusion. ”

In the end, Nie Whirlwind ended today's controversy with such a sentence. Indeed, what is the level of human understanding of Go? Again, this is an unanswered question.

For example, the three masters sitting here have three different understandings. Zhao Zhixun thinks that the chess god lets him have 2 sons, Li Xiaoqiang thinks that he can make more, and Nie Whirlwind is the most confident and can also be considered the most arrogant, he thinks that the chess god can only let him go first at most.

Who's the most correct? Anyway, no one can convince anyone, and everyone thinks that their own ideas are more correct.

"Maybe only after the "Go Deep Blue" really appears, everyone can see this problem clearly. ”

Reporter Zhang Da finally summed it up like this.

"No, there are many chess games in reality, I think it can fully prove that my point of view is correct."

Li Xiaoqiang responded very seriously.

"Hahaha, it's just you, it's just you Li Xiaoqiang alone. I don't think I'm going to continue arguing about this issue. You're still ...... Let's prepare for tomorrow's match with Yitian. ”

What reporter Zhang Da didn't expect was that the game between Li Xiaoqiang and Yitian Jiji on the second day was very interesting. After watching this game, reporter Zhang Da even felt that Li Xiaoqiang's point of view seemed to be very reasonable.

What happened to this game? (To be continued.) )

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