"There are many problems in Tokmak, but I believe that just as the plasma turbulence phenomenon that was originally thought to be unsolvable has now been solved, one day we will be able to solve the problems of magnetic surface tearing and magnetic islands.

Academician Wang avoided talking about Tokmak's question, and instead asked: "Even if we focus on the stellar mimic next, how to solve the tighter processing accuracy required by the stellarator?" ”

"As I said just now, engineering problems are essentially material problems, and if materials are broken through, the difficulty of engineering will be reduced accordingly."

Professor Zhang did not answer the question of how to meet the requirements of precision machining required for stellarators, and this kind of industrial problem requires a long time to slowly progress.

Don't look at the amazing progress of science and technology in China over the years, but there is still a long distance from those countries in Germany in terms of industrial base processing, and it cannot reach the accuracy required by the stellar, which takes time to slowly boil.

"Since it is a problem of materials, the emergence of superconducting materials with better parameters, and problems such as magnetic surface tearing can be forcibly stabilized with stronger currents and magnetic fields, so why give up Tokmac, which has occupied a leading position in the world, and instead study stellarators?"

"I'm not saying it's all going to stellaroids, I'm saying you can't give up on stellarators just because Tokmak is ahead."

Professor Zhang did not expect to give up the tokmak and turn all to the stellarator, which touched too much to be possible, but took a step back and said: "Controlled nuclear fusion is a matter of national strategy, and the act of putting all the eggs in one basket is undoubtedly wrong, Academician Wang, can you guarantee that the tokmak will be commercialized earlier than the stellar mimic in the future?" ”

"In the case of limited funds, it is always more advantageous to push forward with the dominant side than to go with the bulls......"

As Professor Zhang and Academician Wang went head-to-head, the conference room instantly turned into a lively vegetable market.

The Tokmak side headed by Academician Wang was outnumbered, and the voice was even louder.

Professor Zhang's side is weak, but Tokmak is indeed inferior to the situation of the stellar after the current plasma turbulence problem has been greatly reduced, and they all know that even if everyone is for their own interests, they can't open their eyes and talk nonsense in such a meeting, so they can't refute the attack launched by Professor Zhang.

Seeing Professor Zhang and Academician Wang, they quarreled for a while and did not stop, this is another group of national treasure-level professors and academicians, and it is not good to be too tough, the two people sitting next to the host of the meeting looked at each other and said:

"In this way, the academicians and professors will go back and write an analysis report based on the theme of today's conference, and submit an approximate funding request, and we will decide the future research focus of the EAST project based on the situation of these reports."

As these two people spoke, everyone understood that this meeting could only be regarded as this for the time being, and the next direction of things could only depend on the above considerations and the game between the two interests.

glanced at each other, everyone was like an aunt buying vegetables in the vegetable market and bargaining without negotiating, picking up their own things and turning around and walking out of the door.

Professor Zhang walked relatively quickly, and there were only two people who left behind him, and as soon as Academician Wang walked out of the door, seven or eight people gathered around him to discuss the issues at the meeting just now.

"Academician Wang, what should I do next?"

One of them looked a little worried, and said, "As far as I know, the above has already cooperated with Qingda to form a project during the Chinese New Year, and the theme of this project is to study stellarstellarsers. ”

Funding is not enough for all the researchers in the world, and the EAST project is funded so much every year, and if the stellar mimics are added to the research sequence, it means that the interests of those who represent Tokmak research will be harmed.

Although the future of stellarators is brighter than that of Tokmak after the plasma turbulence problem is solved, this does not mean that Tokmak will be eliminated and cannot be commercialized.

Just as Academician Wang said at the meeting, plasma turbulence, which originally belonged to the detection blind spot, was thought to be unsolvable, but it has been solved today, and these Tokmak problems such as magnetic plane tearing and magnetic island phenomenon have not been solved with the deepening of the study of magnetic fields and plasma.

People are selfish, and if Tokmak is sure that it can't be commercialized, that's fine, admit it.

But since it is possible to reach a solution to the problem, and Tokmak has not despaired, how can they give up, is it because the stellar mimic currently has an advantage over Tokmak?

Joke, before the birth of the first commercially available controllable nuclear fusion device, just as he did not dare to say that Tokmak would be commercialized, no one dared to say that the stellar simulator would be commercialized before Tokmak.

"I understand that as long as I'm here, no one can touch the cake that belongs to Tokmak."

Academician Wang nodded silently, in addition to the investment of many scientific researchers, the main reason for the concentration of resources is that Huaguo Tokmak has been able to develop so rapidly in recent years.

As the head of the Tokmak study in Huaguo, he will never allow anyone to want to touch the Tokmak cake.

"Academician Wang, the original mathematical model of plasma turbulence has appeared, and the above opinions are still fully in favor of Tokmak, after all, we have been studying this aspect for so many years and are in the leading position in the world, and the Tokmak device is also more suitable for our current national conditions."

A professor from Qingdao University hesitated and said: "Even if a project to study stellars was set up during the Chinese New Year, it did not occupy the resources of EAST, and used the resources of the military.

Now the EAST project has changed, mainly because of the laboratory in Guangdong Province, they have made too much noise, and the public opinion guidance has made the people above think about whether to launch the stellarator.

After all, as a national strategic project, a private laboratory is in the forefront, and it is afraid that this reputation will affect the people's trust in the country, and they are also afraid that it will be used by other countries to cause a bad impact.

If we can curb the development of that laboratory in Xiayue Province, delay their research, and prove that their research is a joke, or let them keep a low profile and let public opinion and the public ignore them, then they will still support Tokmak. ”

It's not that the people above are not wise, on the contrary, for every project at the national strategic level, they will carefully listen to the opinions of professionals in the research industry.

However, after so many years of Tokmak's research, the extreme concentration of resources has not only become the driving force for Tokmak's research over the years, but also made the vast majority of the interests of the entire EAST project and even the entire controllable nuclear fusion circle in China stand on Tokmak's side.

They don't understand the technical aspects, they need to consult experts in the industry, but what if these experts are their own people, and there is no other voice in the whole country?