Zhou Shi'an listened carefully to Lu Zhengdong's tirade, and generally understood what Lu Zhengdong meant, Lu Zhengdong's views were very sharp, and directly hit the most painful place of the other party, and it was also the most desired change of the high-level, there were really two brushes, so he asked tentatively:

"What does Director Lu mean ......"

"The separation of government and enterprises, breaking the monopoly, introducing competition, separating factories and networks, and bidding for the Internet, based on which the reform plan is designed. Among them, it is a very important point that the separation of competition and monopoly is a very important point, although there are different national conditions and different models in different countries, but this idea is basically similar.

Realize the separation of competitive links and monopoly links, introduce effective competition in competitive links, and realize effective government supervision and control in monopoly links. In this regard, we can refer to the United Kingdom and Argentina, which are relatively good in the world......"

"This requires the separation of power generation enterprises, and the power generation enterprises under Guodian can form several large power generation groups. The split is mainly carried out within the State Electric, the way can be considered to be completed in the form of administrative allocation, so that it is more convenient to operate, these major power groups are separate enterprises in the national plan, equal status, do not belong to the jurisdiction of the State Electric, all under the State Council, but any one has a power generation capacity in the regional power grid can not exceed 20 percent, the formation of a few full of momentum, so as to truly achieve competition in the field of power generation. ”

"As for the power grid, two ...... can be considered"

Lu Zhengdong is well aware that under the current situation, it is impossible to insist on dividing the power grid into six, but a compromise plan can still be considered.

"Land Bureau. There is actually no difference between two and six, and there is no competition at all......"

"When the grid can't bring in direct competition, it's more effective to make indirect comparisons of costs and benefits, and it's beneficial for the government to regulate effectively, which is called ruler regulation in economics. Although the two networks do not produce a great competitive effect, "when one network, the cost is difficult to figure out, and the information asymmetry is a relatively big challenge to the regulators, mainly considering the effectiveness of supervision." That is, the establishment of an electricity regulatory department. This is also a department directly subordinate to the State Council. ”

Of course, Lu Zhengdong knows that this can not form competition, and in the current situation, it is impossible to break the barriers between the state power and the provinces, a State Grid Corporation plus six regional power grid companies, clear the relationship between the State Grid and the regional power grid, that is, the regional power grid companies are independent operation of the joint stock liability company, and the State Grid Corporation only equity linkage, some for the holding relationship, some only shareholding. However, there has been a shortage of electricity, and the Southern Electric Power Joint Venture Company in several southern provinces, which mainly relies on external power input, has experience in independent operation. Lu Zhengdong's idea was to list this separately. Become a power grid.

This has not changed the overall pattern of the operation of one network, and it is more acceptable to those who insist on the operation of one network. At the same time, the equity method is also more acceptable to local governments, and is more popular than the plan proposed by the Guodian system......

Zhou Shi'an was completely shocked by the prototype of Lu Zhengdong's plan, although this is only a general idea, the essence of it can also be seen from it, which is much more positive than the plan proposed by the power system, but this is tantamount to dismembering the power system, which is ......

"I'm waiting for the first draft of this plan to be used in a hurry, according to this idea, you can take out the first draft of the plan before the end of this week......"

Lu Zhengdong ignored Zhou Shi'an's hesitation and surprise. Say it directly.

Zhou Shi'an saw that Lu Zhengdong had no room for negotiation at all, and knew that it was useless to say anything, so he had to prepare according to Lu Zhengdong's requirements.

But this is not too bad, Lu Zhengdong put forward such an idea, it must be difficult for the other party to accept, in this way, it will solve the embarrassing situation that was sandwiched between Deputy Director Zhang and Lu Zhengdong before.

In this way, Lu Zhengdong will not be offended. As for Deputy Director Zhang, he had already thought about the rhetoric, and the young man didn't know the depth, so he asked him to go head-to-head with the electric boss. Taste the taste of hitting your head against the south wall, presumably Deputy Director Zhang can also explain the past, so that it is best for both parties not to be offended......

―――――――――――――――――――――――― "This symposium is very important, and maybe important leaders will come and listen to it when they have time." ”

Lin Junsheng, the first deputy director of the Commission for the Reform of the System, reminded Lu Zhengdong as he walked:

"The speech should reflect the bearing of our system reform committee."

Lu Zhengdong hurriedly agreed.

This symposium is a symposium on electricity reform.

The reform of oil, gas and coal has generally been eyebrows, but the power reform due to the disagreement of all parties, the differences are very large, the road has not yet come up with a plan that can be accepted by the majority of the people, this plan can not be taken out, the direction can not be set, the direction can not be set, then nothing can be done, and at this time from the opening of the next National People's Congress, it is only four or five months, the principle of the big has been clear, can not be changed, and the power reform lags behind, that is, it will affect the whole body, It has a direct impact on the entire institutional reform and corporate restructuring.

This symposium is not so much a discussion as it is about finding a balance and reaching an initial compromise so as not to jeopardize the larger process.

"Now the power reform is very divided, there are senior power industry practitioners, some are experts and scholars in the reform, are people with their own ideas, they are mostly individuals, a simple background can allow them to speak freely, and you are different, as the director of the Economic Operation and Reform Bureau of the System Reform Commission, no matter how you emphasize your personal views, people will still regard your views as official views, at least on behalf of a tendency of the Commission for the Reform of the System, your words and deeds are destined to be concerned, So I have to remind you that you must pay attention to logic when making your point......"

Lin Junsheng has also seen Lu Zhengdong's speech, and knows that he is not stage frightened for this kind of thing, and Lu Zhengdong's speech on power reform is also personally circled by him, the point of view is very good, there are unique ideas, and it is also operable, but after all, the symposium is a symposium, and it is a seminar that has not solved the problem, and the host of the meeting will not let people read according to the script, and it will definitely not be decent. It must be talked in depth, and there is even no lack of gunpowder in life, and these people are all experts, and if they don't pay attention to it a little, they will be caught by others, and they will persistently chase and fight, so that they have no chance to really expound their own views......

Lu Zhengdong can see that Director Lin's mood is not too good, and it is no wonder that as the main functional department responsible for reform. According to the initial plan, it was changed to a system reform office, and the organizational setup and personnel were greatly reduced, while the name of the system reform committee was retained, but it was withdrawn from the government composition sequence, and it was only a fictitious deliberative body for consultation.

Director Lin is about to reach the maximum number of years in office, in fact, there is nothing to fight about, but before he retreated to the second line, he encountered such a situation, and he felt a little regretful in his heart. It's a little heartwarming, but I don't want the Commission to become the target of criticism from others at this time. Lu Zhengdong understands very well.

When Lu Zhengdong accompanied Director Lin into the conference hall. In addition to the World Bank, Energy Foundation China, ADB, Energy Foundation China Sustainable Program Leaders and other international organizations, experts and scholars from domestic and foreign energy and power research institutions, banking circles, universities and other institutions attended the forum. It was also evident that the seminar was of a high standard, but no media was allowed to enter the venue. It also shows that the meeting is very sensitive.

Originally, such a seminar was usually sponsored by the Commission for Structural Reform or the Ministry of Electric Power, but the time of this meeting is very sensitive at the node when the institutional reform has begun to emerge, and the current power reform is very divided, so this meeting is hosted by the State Council Research Office, which is obviously for balance.

Originally, the nature of the forum-like discussion was to discuss exchanges and contacts, but now it seems that it has been given more meaning.

The agenda for the meeting has been distributed to each participant. It mainly discusses the background and objectives of the reform of the power system, international experience, how to introduce the competition mechanism and phased tasks, the separation of power generation and transmission and distribution (separation of power generation and distribution of power grid), the reorganization of transmission and distribution, the environment of the competitive market power market, the law and regulation of the competitive market, the exploration of the top-level design ideas of the power reform, and the summary of the seminar.

Each party can ask questions and discuss after speaking, but there is a strict time limit for speeches and discussions, and each person can speak for no more than 15 minutes. Questions and answers should not exceed ten minutes. Before the end of the morning and afternoon meetings, there is an hour and a half to 50 minutes for all participants to ask questions and discuss.

Fifteen minutes is not at all a complete explanation, the speech is only an outline to clarify the point, and the questions and answers are definitely outside the content of the script.

Lu Zhengdong wants to speak about the top-level design ideas of electric power reform, and he will be joined by the director of the policy department of the Ministry of Electric Power, as well as his old acquaintance Zeng Huaide.

Zeng Huaide, director of the Investment and Planning Department of the Economic Commission, was somewhat surprised by Lu Zhengdong's appearance at the seminar, because the main function of the Economic and Trade Commission is to be responsible for macroeconomic regulation and control of the operation of the national economy in the near future, and this is different from the Planning Commission, which is responsible for the preparation of medium- and long-term plans and annual plans for the country's economic and social development, and the Economic Commission is responsible for organizing the implementation and coordination of the annual plans. It is natural for the Planning Commission to participate in such a matter, but there have always been calls for the Planning Commission to take the lead in the power reform, and in order not to provoke the fire, the Planning Commission simply did not send people to this link this time, and the Economic Commission is somewhat far-fetched.

As for Zeng Huaide, it is even more impossible to suppress him, Zeng Huaide is older than him, older than him, and even if he wins, he will not be able to win, Zeng Huaide will definitely not be so willful.

But why did Zeng Huaide come to participate? Lu Zhengdong couldn't help but ponder......

Sitting in Zhou Shi'an, he saw Lu Zhengdong looking at Zeng Huaide's name and contemplating, so he whispered in Lu Zhengdong's ear:

"Director Zeng has always been very concerned about economic reform, and many of his views have been shared by the leaders of the Economic Commission. It's just that I didn't expect this trip to the Muddy Waters Economic Commission to be involved, it's a trouble, and our days are even more difficult......"

Zhou Shi'an shook his head slightly.

Lu Zhengdong was a little confused just now, but Zhou Shi'an's casual words made him understand the mystery at once, which involved a high-level game.

Rather than a dispute over the reform plan, the power reform is more about the dominance of the power reform. The Zeng family may be some people who are fellow travelers, or who hold the same and similar views with some people, or an alliance formed based on certain considerations.

Thinking about it this way, it is not difficult to understand Zeng Huaide's appearance here, and it seems that Zeng Huaide also came prepared, and the plan proposed must be acceptable to some people. There are also some new ideas.

Zeng Huaide is very strong in the capital, and Lu Zhengdong knows a little about it. The Zeng family turned over by supporting reform at a critical moment, and in the eyes of others, it was one of the representatives of the reformists, while Zeng Huaide's style was a high-profile line, and he frequently appeared on various occasions for economic reform......

Lu Zhengdong couldn't help but think that Yun Weixi left the capital, Zeng Huaide may also be one of the reasons, right?

Zeng Huaide has been in the limelight in the past two years, and the Yun family has always adhered to a low-key style, and Yun Weixi is not good at the economy. Then we cannot stand in the center of the most dazzling stage of "taking economic construction as the center." What's more, the two of them have the same background, similar age, and equivalent positions. This will inevitably not be compared together, and what is not obvious will be revealed in such a comparison.

Yun Weixi was the first of the so-called four little sons in the capital to be promoted to the main hall, known as the head of the four little sons, but in the past two years, Zeng Huaide has a great posture of coming from behind, although these things are not as important as keeping up with people.

And who laughs and laughs that the real winner is in the end, it is too early for the two to talk about who wins and who loses, who is superior and who is inferior. But it's not always a good thing to leave a strong preconceived impression in the minds of others, and it's better to avoid it for a while......

Lu Zhengdong thought about it, glanced at Zhou Shi'an, who was a little worried, and smiled faintly in his heart, he didn't think it was trouble. On the contrary, he instead surged with a long-lost passionate emotion of the whole body, and since he had met, this was actually a contest!

The top-level design of electricity reform explores this issue compared to other technical issues. This topic is more concerned, because although these ideas, exploration, suggestions and suggestions, only as a reference for high-level decision-making, but it is bound to have an impact on the final decision-making of the high-level power reform, so this topic is arranged before the summary of the seminar, because the ministers who participated in the opening ceremony are busy people, it is impossible to participate in the whole process, most of them will leave the venue after attending the opening ceremony, leaving the secretary to participate, and will attend when the meeting is closed......

This seminar was really different from other seminars, and every time there was a collective question and discussion at the end of the morning and afternoon meetings, there would be arguments and debates, especially on the afternoon of the first day, and the arguments even lasted until after dinner.

Before this, Lu Zhengdong was mainly an audience and thinking, digesting, and further thinking about his own speech tomorrow......

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On the afternoon of the last day of the meeting, not only were several ministerial-level senior officials present, but the number of people in the venue also increased significantly, the first to speak was Zeng Huaide, and Lu Zhengdong could not help but admire the personnel in charge of conference affairs.

The most important thing is always at the end, and it can be seen from the arrangement of the order of speeches that the clue is there, and the other party is on the double insurance.

Lu Zhengdong shook his head slightly, and focused on Zeng Huaide's speech, although Zeng Huaide's theme and the preliminary plan of the power system before have not changed substantially, but

Zeng Huaide's speech still put forward some views and ideas, and the power system before some of the preliminary ideas are still a little new, and in many of the previous vague and doubtful places more fully explained, plus the speech is still very inflammatory and infectious, let know that the original power system is too conservative and the two preliminary plans put forward by the Commission for the Reform of the System are too radical, Zeng Huaide put forward this idea, there is still progress, but also more operational.

So Zeng Huaide still received enough applause after his speech, Zeng Huaide smiled, although polite, but his expression was still full of confidence. It seems that this result was expected by Zeng Huaide......

Lu Zhengdong seemed very calm, if Zeng Huaide really didn't have anything, it was from humiliation, and it was not normal.

Lu Zhengdong is thinking about a deeper problem, and Zeng Huaide's idea of an improved and upgraded version of the plan may be a version of the other side making compromises and concessions, which shows that this plan has received great support, thus exerting strong pressure on the side of the Commission for the Reform of the System. What's more, they still have the advantage of being the last to speak, and they have a chance to correct at the last moment.

What a must!

Lu Zhengdong glanced at Zeng Huaide, who walked down with a confident smile, and the staff of the power system with a happy face, and smiled faintly in his heart, it was too early to be happy, wait for him to finish speaking, and see if these people can laugh or not!

This is a collision of ideas and concepts, which would have been a theoretical battle in ordinary times, but now it will offend people! But this offending person is worth it, not to mention that this is a good thing for the benefit of the country and the people, that is, from his own point of view, the person he is with and the person he wants to talk to and the other party's point of view are different, and he is worth it.

In officialdom, nothing is more important than following the right person! ……

Lu Zhengdong stepped onto the stage, glanced at the crowd below, bowed slightly, calmed down a little and began his speech:

"Power reform is a major issue related to the lifeblood of the national economy, so this is a game that cannot be lost, which not only requires great courage, but also requires extraordinary wisdom, and even jumps out of the power itself, standing in the national energy security and environmental security from a higher perspective to consider the design of the reform, and consider the ideas and ......process of the reform as a whole."

Lu Zhengdong's opening remarks were very special, and the people below were completely focused on his speech, and even the people in an office in charge of conference affairs behind the side door not far from the podium couldn't help but listen attentively, until a clear and cold old man walked in surrounded by secretaries and guards.

Several staff members came back to their senses, and they were all stunned for a moment, and then quickly stood up......

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