0436 Said Wang Meng

Speaking of Pan Yue, he came all the way to the Qin State military camp, and was taken to the military camp after revealing his identity.

Wang Meng was also very helpless about Tang Guo, the spoiler who came out halfway, but he was more curious about Tang Guo, so he also met him personally.

Pan Yue publicly stated the plan of the Tang State and made it clear that he would make an offer to fight the Three Kingdoms, which naturally aroused the righteous indignation of the soldiers of the Qin State.

In fact, Wang Meng also felt that the other party was too arrogant, but he was not prepared to hurt Pan Yue.

The Tang State is now invading the land of Yan and Jin, and has not caused harm to the Qin State, and in his opinion, the two countries still have the possibility of continuing to cooperate.

But if you humiliate or kill the other party's envoy, then this enmity will be great, so it is just for people to take Pan Yue down to entertain him.

However, before leaving, Pan Yue took out a book and said: "Wang Xianggong, my lord admires your talent very much, and often praises you as a talent for governing the country, so I specially ordered me to bring you a gift." ”

Wang Meng said lightly: "I accepted the book, and thanked His Majesty the Tang Emperor for his appreciation on my behalf." ”

After Pan Yue left, Wang Meng showed this book in public, the name is Rights and Responsibilities, it is indeed a book, not a secret letter or anything like that.

After that, he began to discuss the plan of sending troops that Pan Yue had just said, and finally came to the conclusion that either he was lying, or Tang Guo was too arrogant.

However, out of prudence, Wang Meng still sent spies to investigate.

After the meeting, he took out the book and looked at it, and the result was naturally extremely shocking, it was completely a challenge and subversion of the current rules.

What kind of imperial examination system, what kind of official gentry pay food in one...... It is not worth mentioning at all in the face of the content of this book.

In other words, these advanced systems are only the embodiment of a certain aspect of the book's thinking.

Did Tang really dare to promote such an idea? Or is there an emperor in this world who is willing to promote such an idea?

And if the Tang State really formulated the system according to the ideas of this book, then what would it look like? He became even more curious about Tang Guo.

After thinking about it, I decided to meet the messenger named Pan Yue in person and have a good chat.

If you think of it, you will do it, and immediately come to the camp where Pan Yue is.

Pan Yue seemed to have expected him to come back, and it was not surprising at all.

After the two exchanged a few words of greeting, Wang Meng went directly to the topic and said: "Mr. Pan, may I ask the ...... of this book?"

Pan Yue said: "This book is written by my lord himself, and all the laws, rules, and customs of my Tang Kingdom are formulated according to it as the core. ”

Wang Meng said in surprise: "Wait, you just said that this book was written by His Majesty the Tang Emperor?" Which Tang Emperor is it? ”

Pan Yue said: "It's your majesty now." ”

Wang Meng was silent, he really wanted to say that you don't joke about labor and management when you step on a horse, is it okay, is your emperor sick in the brain to write this kind of book? Doesn't he care about his power at all?

But the book is right in front of him, and the other party really has no need to deceive him.

He didn't speak, but Pan Yue began to take the initiative to initiate the topic. It should be said that he came with a mission this time, not to make an appointment, but to lobby Wang Meng.

It is unrealistic not to expect to rely on lip service to surrender what Wang Meng said. It's just to plant a seed first, and when the Qin State is defeated in the future, lay the foundation for recruiting him.

"Your Majesty actually admires Wang Xianggong very much, and thinks that King Qin Tianwang is a rare male lord in the world...... Especially in terms of heart, His Majesty is ashamed of himself. ”

Wang Meng couldn't help but feel proud in his heart, wasn't it because of him that he took refuge in Fu Jian.

How do you know that Pan Yue changed his words and said: "Actually, in my opinion, Your Majesty is too modest, he is not worse than Qin Tianwen in terms of heart, and even better than Qin Tianwen in some aspects." ”

Wang Meng raised his eyebrows, and seemed to disagree with this sentence, but he didn't say anything to refute it.

Pan Yue didn't wait for him to refute before giving an explanation: "There is no basis for words, for example, a secret agent of our Tang State led the dissent, but he did not really make a traitorous move......"

"At that time, many people wanted to put him to death, but His Majesty just removed him from office. Later, when calculating his merits, he was knighted. ”

"Many people are puzzled, such a person is already the greatest gift to him if he doesn't kill him, why should he be knighted?"

"Your Majesty said that if he doesn't care about his deeds, he has not really betrayed the country, so his merits cannot be erased."

Wang Meng couldn't help but say, "The kindness of a woman." Fu Jian also has this and it is very serious, he has a headache for this, he didn't expect that there is a second such monarch in the world.

Pan Yue shook his head and said: "At first, everyone thought the same, many officials began to behave indiscriminately, and then the officials who did so were severely punished......"

"In the past ten years, Your Majesty has executed more than 500 officials in accordance with the law, and thousands of people have been sentenced to exile and imprisonment.

"As long as you don't trample on the law by action, you can tolerate it. Anyone who violates the law will be punished regardless of his status. ”

"Compared with King Qin's blind tolerance, my lord is more principled, what does the prince think?"

Wang Meng smiled bitterly in his heart, if Fu Jian was so principled, Qin Guo could have half of the matter.

Regardless of the heart, it is indeed like the words that can be said by someone who wrote a book like "Rights and Responsibilities".

However, he couldn't speak ill of his monarch to his face, so he could only change the topic and said: "Let's talk about this book, why did His Majesty the Tang Emperor write such a book?" ”

Pan Yue asked rhetorically: "What does Wang Xianggong think of the idea of this book?" ”

Wang Meng said: "I don't know, I just flipped through it roughly, and I haven't read it carefully." Correct...... Just a cursory reading is already ...... Well, this book is counterintuitive. ”

Pan Yue said: "Where did common sense come from?" Can there be a county system in the pre-Qin period? Can there be a military merit system? Isn't it contrary to common sense that the book of the First Emperor is on the same track as the literary car? But now the whole world is implementing the system formulated by the Qin Dynasty. ”

Wang Meng shook his head and said, "It's different...... The system of the First Emperor was also explored step by step on the basis of his predecessors. ”

Although this book quotes a lot of allusions from the hundreds of schools of thought, it ...... It itself is a subversion of the hundred schools of thought. ”

Pan Yue continued to ask: "How did the hundred schools of thought come about, has the prince considered it?" ”

Wang Meng was stunned for a moment, he really hadn't thought about this aspect before.

It's not just him, it should be said that most people haven't thought about it, they subconsciously think that isn't that how the hundred schools of thought came.

Now when I suddenly heard this question, I was shocked, yes, how did it come?

He couldn't help but ask, "Do you know?" ”

Pan Yue said: "I have heard some things from His Majesty, I wonder if the prince is willing to listen to it?" ”

Wang Meng arched his hand and said, "Please give me advice from Mr. Pan." ”

Pan Yue said: "I don't dare to give advice, I just relay His Majesty's words." It's a long story, and it starts from ancient times. ”

"But before that, I need to popularize a few words for you, the first one is productivity, which is simply the ability of human beings to obtain various resources from this world."

"For example, the ability of human beings to hunt, graze, plant, fish, grow mulberry and silkworms, weave cloth and make clothes, are all productive forces."

"There is also the relations of production, which are the mutual relations born on the basis of the productive forces...... To put it simply, it is the relationship between people and between people and society. ”

"And the social structure...... Class ......"

Pan Yue first explained these unique words to Wang Meng one by one, otherwise many topics would not be able to be developed.

And Wang Meng was very excited when he heard so many unheard of but so accurate and appropriate words, and he was even more looking forward to what Pan Yue was going to say next.

Seeing that he was able to accept these words and concepts so quickly, Pan Yue couldn't help but admire them in his heart, but it took him a long time to fully understand them.

Of course, this had something to do with the fact that he was too young at the time. But anyway, Wang Meng can understand it when he hears it for the first time, and it is indeed very unusual.

"Your Majesty has said that all ideas, systems, and so on in this world are based on productive forces."

"In ancient times, there was no iron or even any metal, and there were very few tools that humans could use."

"And at that time, humans had not yet mastered the skills of planting, and the only sources of food were hunting and nature gathering."

"Able-bodied people are in charge of hunting, and in fact most of the work is done by men. Women have a weak constitution and are mainly engaged in collecting work. ”

"Hunting without tools is very inefficient and many times it is empty-handed. On the contrary, the harvest is relatively stable, and you can get some food every day. ”

"At that time, women had far better access to food than men, and women would have children and have offspring."

"Therefore, in the customs and thoughts of that time, women had a higher status than men...... His Majesty named this era the Age of Matriarchal Society. ”

Wang Meng had something to say, but he still forcibly held back, what is the so-called matriarchal society of power and responsibility?

"Later, it was discovered that the seeds of plants scattered on the ground can sprout and grow and bear fruit. And it's more stable and safer than hunting and gathering...... Slowly, I learned to farm. ”

"When humans learned to farm, social relations changed again. Men are better suited to farming than women, becoming the main labor force of a family and the main source of food for a family. ”

"The status of men gradually increased, and finally surpassed women, and from then on they entered the patriarchal society, which is now known as the society of male farmers and female weavers."

"The reason for this replacement is the progress of the productive forces, that is, the productive forces determine the relations of production and determine the social structure."

Wang Meng nodded subconsciously, although he didn't know how the other party knew about these things, and he didn't know whether it was true or false. But logically speaking, the other party's reasoning makes a lot of sense.

Pan Yue paused for a moment to give him time to react before continuing: "The land is fixed and immovable, and human beings settle close to the land, and gradually develop tribes and towns. ”

"Although humans have learned to farm, they lack tools, especially metal tools, and the production efficiency is very low, and everyone must work collectively in order to improve efficiency."

"The so-called collective labor means that all the land is collective, and the tools of labor are also collective. Everyone worked together, harvested together, and enjoyed the fruit together under the leadership of the chief. ”

"This era is called the collective era, and the legendary Xia Dynasty is this kind of system."

Wang Meng perked up and finally talked about the place he was familiar with. He naturally knew about the Xia Dynasty, but was the system of the Xia Dynasty like this?

He didn't know, but he still didn't interrupt the other party's words, but listened more attentively.

"Times are changing, and so are productivity. Slowly, humans mastered the ability to smelt metal, and they had metal tools. ”

"In the Xia Dynasty, the smelting technology of bronze was already very advanced, metal tools began to be popularized, and productivity was greatly improved."

"When there were no metal farming tools, a person could only cultivate one acre of land, but with metal farming tools, one person could cultivate ten acres of land, and the food that an individual could produce increased."

"When you don't have enough to eat, everyone works hard and doesn't think cranky. But once there is a surplus of food, some people will be lazy. Anyway, if there is a surplus of food, I will do the same as much and as little. ”

"And where did all that excess food go? Taken by the ruling class. What do the people who work think? Will they be unhappy in their hearts? Will it be passive and lazy because of this? ”

"The problem brought about by the increase in productivity is not as simple as one plus one, but the whole society must change with it. Failure to change in any one place will lead to problems for the whole country. ”

"At that time, people had to explore a new ideological system and system again according to the development of the productive forces."

"How? What is the way forward? ”

Wang Meng blurted out: "Ida system." ”

Pan Yue looked at him in surprise again, he could actually think of the Ida system, and he was indeed worthy of being a person praised by His Majesty. He was not convinced before, but now he finally understands.

"Yes, Ida system. But it's not all the well field system, and it comes with private ownership. ”

"Some people are lazy in working for the government, and some people think that it is unfair for others to eat more and eat less for themselves, so they will simply separate."

"Divide the collective land equally among everyone, and the things produced in each family's land belong to each family, and those who steal and play tricks and can't work hard can only starve."

"In this way, it will be fair, and everyone's enthusiasm for production will also be higher, and the Ida system was born in this process, so the productivity has once again changed the system and thinking."

Wang Meng's brain was a mess, and no one had ever interpreted the change in thought from this perspective, and no one had even really studied it carefully.

In their view, these ideas were summed up by the sages on the basis of their personal gifts and abilities. If we have to study the cause, we can only explain it by the fact that the sages were born to know it.

But now Tang Guo not only gave the answer from another angle, but also seemed so convincing.

Subversive, it's so subversive.

So much so that he was a little dazed, and when he heard this, he hurriedly said, "You wait first, let me take care of it." ”

Pan Yue stopped taking advantage of the situation, he was also a little dry after saying so much just now, and he just rested for a while.

Wang Meng fell into deep thought, and kept muttering words such as productivity, tools, production relations, collective, and private ownership.