0437 Said Wang Meng 2
Looking at Wang Meng, who was deep in thought, Pan Yue took a sip of tea leisurely.
Wen Yi once commented on the heroes of the world, and he especially admired Wang Meng, and the deep regret in that tone was something that everyone could hear.
Xiao Baishan, Pan Yue and other rising stars were very unconvinced, although they later learned about the other party's excellence through various intelligence, they were inevitably still a little uncomfortable.
This time he went to the camp of the Qin State, and Wen Yi specially advised him to have a good relationship with Wang Meng, which would best arouse his curiosity about the Tang State.
Pan Yue didn't dare to disobey Wen Yi's intentions, but he also had his own careful thoughts.
Aroused his curiosity about the Tang Kingdom, didn't it? There are many ways, and you can choose a more deterrent method.
Is there anything more deterrent than what "Rights and Responsibilities" and Wen Yi once said, the birth process of civilization and the hundred schools of thought?
Sure enough, after some words, Wang Meng was stunned.
If you are an old scholar or just an ordinary scholar, you will definitely be strongly criticized when you hear this theory, and regard it as a fallacy.
As for the truth contained in these words? The truth of fart, this is blasphemy against the saints.
Especially after the Song Dynasty, if anyone dared to put forward this theory, he would be spurned by all scholars.
But first, it is now the period of the Three Kingdoms and the Northern and Southern Dynasties, and the troubled times are often the period when the ideological imprisonment is the least.
Second, Wang Meng is not an old pedant, or he is a pragmatist. There is nothing holy in the heart at all, just be useful.
So he was able to calm down and think about itβeven if he thought it was ridiculous.
The more he thought about it, the more it made sense, and regardless of the truth, at least the other party came up with a self-justifying point of view from a unique perspective.
Wait a minute...... Make one's statement consistent? No, there are loopholes.
He raised his head and stared at Pan Yue and asked, "These thoughts are all raw ...... Is productivity determined? Doesn't it have anything to do with past thoughts? β
This time it was Pan Yue's turn to be shocked, you must know that when they first heard about this theory, they were shocked or shocked, and they didn't have the brains to think about these things at all.
And Wang Meng heard about it for the first time, and thought of it so quickly, how smart it is.
However, he reacted immediately, glanced at the other party deeply, and said: "Wang Xianggong really deserves to be the world's great talent praised by His Majesty, and the first time I heard about this theory, I can think of this. β
Wang Meng was not proud at all, and said: "Falsely praised, I don't know if His Majesty the Tang Emperor has an explanation?" β
Pan Yue didn't answer him directly, but asked, "Has Wang Xianggong ever played snowballing?" β
Although Wang Meng didn't know why he asked, he still nodded and said, "I've played." β
Pan Yue said: "When the snowball rolls, the snowball is small at first, and we can push it at will, or change its direction at will. β
"As the snowball gets bigger and bigger, it becomes more difficult for us to change its direction, and we can only push it in the direction it is going."
"The person who pushes the snowball is the productive force, and the snowball is the human civilization."
"In the beginning, productivity was low, human beings drank Mao Ru's blood, the level of civilization was low, and the thinking was simple, and a simple invention could change the thinking of human beings."
"For example, there is a Chao clan who invented a house, and a Suiren clan who invented a fire ...... Even the invention of a hoe can cause a revolution. β
"Human civilization is becoming more and more prosperous and powerful under the impetus of the productive forces, and it is especially difficult to push it forward......"
"When civilization is strong enough to a certain extent, it is difficult for the productive forces to change the direction in which it is going."
"When the snowball is big enough, if the person pushing the ball forcibly changes its direction, it can even be crushed to death...... That's why many people who change the law don't end well. β
"However, if there is no pusher, this snowball will not stop, which means that the civilization of the whole world will begin to stagnate until a new pusher appears."
ββ¦β¦ This is Your Majesty's answer to your question. β
Wang Meng fell into thinking again, he understood this metaphor, when civilization is strong enough to a certain extent, it can indeed affect its own development direction, but it is still inseparable from the promotion of 'hands'.
It even explains from another angle why the law changers often end up miserable.
After a while, he nodded and said, "I've been taught, so what about after the Ida system?" How did the world become what we know it today? β
Pan Yue continued: "Private ownership has indeed greatly promoted the people's enthusiasm for production and further promoted social change. β
"And private ownership has also contributed to a great division of labor in society...... The so-called great division of labor in society is ......"
"If someone is good at carpentry, he can rely on his craft to eat, so he doesn't farm and works as a carpenter. Some specialize in raising livestock, others in weaving...... The world has become diverse. β
"But private ownership is not perfect, and it has the evil consequence of exacerbating class divisions and exploitation."
"In the collective system, everyone has blessings and hardships, and when they encounter disasters, they support them to survive, and when they are sick, they are treated free of charge by the public."
"After private ownership, land was owned by individuals, and the relationship between people became more utilitarian. Enjoy the benefits yourself, and get through the difficulties yourself. β
"Some people are unlucky enough to encounter disasters, or their families are seriously ill and have no money for treatment, so they can only sell their land. If you have no land, you can only be a tenant for other people's families, or even sell yourself into slavery. β
"Those who are strong and can drill camps will become richer and richer, and slowly become powerful and become masters, otherwise they can only become slaves."
"Therefore, the social structure of the Shang and Zhou dynasties underwent great changes, and gradually evolved into what we know."
ββ¦β¦ During the Shang and Zhou dynasties, metal smelting technology became more mature, various agricultural tools were invented and popularized, and the efficiency of human work was improved again. β
"In particular, the invention of the plough and the plough has made it possible for humans to farm with the help of livestock (cattle, horses, mules, donkeys, etc.), making it more efficient."
"There is also the further division of labor in society, resulting in the prosperity of all industries...... The social structure has become more complex. β
"The progress of the productive forces leads to an increase in the population, and a larger population means an increase in the labor force, and the more food and various materials are produced...... More land is being developed. β
"When you get stronger, you have the ability to grab more land...... The land area is also increasing, and it has changed from the original Horaku to the ...... of Kyushu."
"The increase in population and land area means that the country is more complex, and a simple well-field system can no longer effectively manage such a large amount of land."
"There was still a huge problem in the Shang and Zhou dynasties, that is, the class was solidified and the upward channels were cut off. Only the blood of the nobility can be a nobleman, and a commoner can only be a commoner forever. β
"Knowledge, learning, and even rituals were the exclusive property of the aristocracy, and the commoners were not entitled to all this. If you dare to cross your identity and learn to read, read and listen to music, it is a capital offense. β
"These decadent and outdated ideas are no longer ...... to the development of productive forces."
ββ¦β¦ As a result, the Zhou Dynasty, which existed based on the Jingtian system, gradually lost its rule over the world, and the era of the princes rising together arrived. β
"During the Spring and Autumn Period and the Warring States Period, the strength of several powerful vassal states was about the same, and no one could subdue the other party with their own strength, and no one was convinced by anyone's anger, and in the end everyone was at a stalemate."
"In this turbulent era, all kinds of rules have been broken, and the written language, which was originally only in the hands of the aristocracy, is gradually being mastered by the common people."
"More and more people are realizing that this is not going to work, and that changes must be made."
"As future generations, we know what to do, but people at that time were limited by the times and it was difficult to see the way forward, so they could only grope their way forward."
"If the future is compared to an elephant, then the sages who groped for the future are the blind men who touched the elephant......"
"Someone touched the belly of an elephant and thought it was a wall; Those who touch the legs think that the elephant is like a pillar, and those who touch the ears think that the elephant is like a fan......"
"The same is true of our sages, who 'touched' and recorded their thoughts. Everyone 'touches' things differently, so there are hundreds of schools of thought......"
"But they don't just touch it out of thin air, but deduce it based on their own knowledge and the environment in which they live."
"Lao Tzu specially helped Zhou Tianzi take care of the book collection, so he has the most knowledge. At that time, Zhou Tianzi had lost the prestige of the Son of Heaven, and Lao Tzu had no power...... So he came up with the idea of non-action. β
"Confucius was born into a famous family and once served as a ...... So he advocated the revival of the weekly rites......"
"Mozi came from a handicraft class...... If the handicraft industry wants to develop, it needs a stable social environment. They want the nations to stop fighting...... So he proposed both love and non-offense. β
"Even within the same family, there will be differences, for example, Guan Zhong and Shang Yang are both Legalists, and there are big differences in their thinking."
Guan Zhong was born in the market, and he can understand the hardships and demands of the small people, so he advocates enriching the people. Shang Ying was born into a powerful family and only considered the interests of the country and the powerful, so he put forward the idea of a rich country. β
"The sages of the other hundred schools of thought also put forward their own ideas based on their own origins and knowledge."
At this point, he added: "This is what you just said, the influence of existing ideas on future thoughts. New ideas do not arise out of thin air, but are obtained by pushing through existing ideas. β
Wang Meng nodded, this theory was indeed rounded back.
Pan Yue continued: "But the future that every sage sees is one-sided, and even some of them we can directly say are wrong......"
Wang Meng continued: "So the hundred schools of thought began to merge, absorbing each other's advantages, and then found a way out, right?" β
Pan Yue said: "Yes, with the exploration and trial and error of the ancestors again and again, the road ahead is gradually clear. β
"The Ida system began to disintegrate, land was completely privatized, and those who owned land paid taxes to the imperial court."
"Confucius pioneered private learning without class, and learning began to enter the people, and ordinary people could read and write."
"Identity restrictions have been initially dismantled, and people from ordinary backgrounds but with great talents have been given the opportunity to become prominent."
"Even though the chances are very slim, it's a huge improvement from not having any chances at all."
"Some people realized the disadvantages of the feudal system and began to adopt the county system and centralize power. Concentrate more power in the hands of the monarch and weaken local power. β
The Qin State further proposed the system of cultivation and warfare, and established a system of 20-level military merit titles. Regardless of their origin, as long as they achieve military merit, they can improve their rank. β
This move completely broke the restrictions on origin and bloodline, and the soldiers and civilians of the Qin State wanted to change their status through war. Therefore, the people of Qin supported the war, and the army was not afraid of death and had strong combat effectiveness. β
"Coupled with the implementation of the county system and the construction of a new social system, the productivity of the Qin State was maximized......
"The production of grain and various other materials can be produced at a rate that meets the needs of the army. In the end, the Qin state unified the world and established the first great unified dynasty in history. β
"After the founding of the First Emperor, he reviewed the previous hundreds of years of conquest and summed up experience, completely abolished the feudal system and implemented the county system."
"Because the great unified country was established, in order to facilitate communication...... There is a car with the same track, the same text, unified weights and measures, and so on......"
Wang Meng couldn't help nodding again, he was confused about what matrilineal society and patrilineal society were at first, but he was familiar with it from the beginning of the well field system.
After all, as the prime minister of a country, he has also studied history and knows these things.
The theory that the productive forces determine cultural thought is very novel, and when it is told in this historical period, he understands it, or understands it more profoundly.
Pan Yue continued: "However, the First Emperor was still too anxious, and he only had time to complete the unification of the territory before the Qin State perished. β
"Fortunately, there was an Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty during the Han Dynasty...... Confucianism has completed the ideological unification of Confucianism, and the people of Chu, Zhao, and Koreans have ...... They have all become Han Chinese......"
"Compared to the previous Jin Kingdom...... Well, anyway, His Majesty looks down on Sima the most, not because he stole the country...... The capable people in the world live in it, and Liu Han, Cao Wei, and they deserve to lose the country if they are incompetent. β
"The reason why Your Majesty looks down on them is because they are turning back the clock of history...... Not only did they not lead our Chinese civilization forward, but they took us to jump into the quagmire......"
"Our ancestors have worked so hard to explore the path they don't know how to take...... actually engaged in the abandoned sub-sealing system...... What a stupidity this is......"
"Even if you are stupid, you will cause the country to fall and all the people to suffer......"
"But it's okay, the Sima clan is incompetent, and His Majesty still has the Tang Dynasty......"
"Your Majesty, based on his own knowledge and background, has explored a new path, ready to lead my Chinese civilization to the next glory."
As an enemy, Wang Meng's mood when he heard this can be imagined.
I couldn't help but retort: "Didn't you say that productivity determines thought?" His Majesty the Tang Emperor proposed these new ideas as if they had nothing to do with productivity, right? β
Pan Yue said meaningfully: "Who said it has nothing to do? Soon Wang Xianggong will know how powerful the productivity of the Tang Kingdom is. β