142 Lift a stone to shoot yourself in the foot, send your customers to Yanghong Technology to grab your own business
Seeing the CNC milling with a tool magazine, Su Mingqiang was overjoyed.
The market for machining centers is much larger than that of CNC milling machines.
They have used Yanghong Technology's CNC system and core parts to produce CNC milling machines, as long as there is no problem with the control system, increase the tool magazine, etc., it will be easy.
The difference between CNC milling machine and machining center is that CNC milling machine can only manually change processing tools.
The difference is not big, but the technical content is not at the same level at all.
The control capability of the system is more demanding, and the amount of data processing when the system is running is not much larger.
"There is no problem with the functionality and control of the system. The problem is that in terms of machinery, the accuracy of the parts we produce does not match the system, and the real performance of the system cannot be brought into play. ”
Qi Hao explained.
As the technical leader, it should have been kept secret.
Xie Yang, the boss, gave him instructions, so naturally he didn't keep it secret.
"This ......"
The smile on Su Mingqiang's face suddenly stiffened.
As much hope as there is, there is as much disappointment as there is.
"What are the specific problems, can you elaborate on them? If it's just that the precision of mechanical manufacturing is not up to standard, I think we should be able to solve it. ”
Fei Yulai listened to the lack of precision in the production of parts, and couldn't help but speak.
Qi Hao looked at him in surprise.
"This is Mr. Fei of the First Machinery Group."
Xie Yang immediately introduced.
After knowing the specific situation of the First Machinery Group, Xie Yang was beating the other party's idea.
A group company specializing in machining, not only engaged in processing, but also research how to improve processing accuracy, etc., and even the research of heat treatment, surface treatment, processing technology, etc. are all part of the business of the First Machinery Group.
Maybe the overall technical strength of the subordinate factories is not good, such a huge scale, how can the First Machinery Group also have some top skilled workers and high-precision equipment?
There are several factories that specialize in the processing of high-precision parts.
The equipment inside is not necessarily advanced, but the experience and technical level of skilled workers are the top.
Many of the experimental equipment in Xie Yang's factory have very high precision, and it will definitely not work by relying on the equipment and production capacity in his own factory.
First Machinery Group can undertake their high-precision parts, which is of great benefit to the development of Yanghong Technology.
At present, no matter how Yanghong Technology poachs people, it is impossible to dig up so many top skilled workers in the First Machinery Group.
No way.
In the old days of the planned economy, workers were the masters of the state, became workers, and everything from marriage to childbirth to death was borne by the state.
Who wants to work as a last resort?
It's not that they can't afford to pay wages for a few years, and there really won't be a few of those top skilled workers working for private companies.
Xie Yang asked Hou Ping to go to Tianfu Machinery Factory to poach people, because he knew that Tianfu Machinery Factory had been very poor in terms of efficiency over the years, and he would pay two or three months of wages a year.
If it weren't for the fact that they couldn't afford to eat for a long time, they had been extremely miserable in the past few years, and no matter how high Xie Yang's salary was, Yang Dezhi and others would not have come to work for him.
"Yes, in the high-precision and cutting-edge processing business, we are still in the first echelon in China."
Fei Yulai nodded and said.
Procurement, the same can also undertake some business.
"Mr. Fei, the accuracy of some of our parts is not ordinary, and many of them are based on μ."
Looking at Fei Yulai's confident face, Qi Hao said with a wry smile.
It's not that he doesn't look down on domestic manufacturing capabilities.
Some core components of CNC machine tools, such as high-speed rotating spindles, have a manufacturing error of only 0.001~0.002 mm, that is, 1-2μ.
Human hair is generally only 0.07 mm, which is about one-seventieth of a hair......
In the inspection process, if it is a manual inspection, it is almost not up to standard.
"You're not just developing CNC systems? With such precision, only the spindle needs such accuracy on the entire CNC machine tool, right? ”
Hearing Qi Hao's introduction, Xiao Yuancheng's brows tightened.
Yanghong Technology is ready to manufacture its own spindle?
"Yes, it's the spindle, and the roller screw, etc., ......"
Qi Hao did not deny it.
He kept staring at Fei Yulai tightly, with eager anticipation in his eyes.
"The spindle is the core component of the machining center, especially the electric spindle, which has very high requirements for stability...... The spindle speed is also a cutting element of machining, which needs to be coordinated with others, which is very limited to our technology......"
Xie Yang saw that Fei Yulai was silent, and spoke slowly.
The manufacturing capacity cannot be improved, and even if there are drawings, it is in vain.
In the field of top-level high-precision equipment manufacturing, even if the accuracy is only 0.001 mm, the technical gap involved is exponential.
Everyone's eyes were on Fei Yulai.
If the First Machinery Group can solve the problem of Yanghong Technology, future cooperation can be expected.
"Don't worry about this, it just so happens that we have a cooperation with the Institute of Optics, and they have developed a special three-coordinate laser inspection for our precision parts business, but there has been no suitable ...... for the control system before."
Fei Yulai smiled indifferently.
Xie Yang looked at him and couldn't help but smile.
Three-coordinate laser measuring equipment is a top-level equipment with higher technical content than CNC machine tools.
More precision, more technical complexity.
"I think, your CNC system and sensors, etc., may be able to meet the use, when the time comes, I will introduce it, you two sides to communicate, Mr. Xie, what do you think?"
"I can't ask for it. Thank you, Mr. Fei! ”
Xie Yang said with a smile.
According to some people, it is much more reliable than finding the door yourself.
"Then let's talk about your current specific situation, I came this time to follow Director Su and them, in order to understand the specific level of your technology...... Most of the production technology of the First Machinery Group is backward and the equipment is aging, and it continues to be updated...... Although the imported equipment is good, the establishment of our First Machinery Group actually has the task of supporting the domestic equipment manufacturing industry......"
Fei Yu looked at Xie Yang with an expression of "I am giving you a chance".
There is no mention of the grievances they have when dealing with international suppliers.
The customer is God.
They started with the kind of God who made purchases on a large scale and was very powerful.
Qi Hao, Xu Le and the others listened with a grateful face.
Xie Yang just looked at Fei Yulai with a smile on his face.
He knew very well that he could not trust the cadres of these state-run units.
Not a single punctuation mark can be trusted.
Imported, these days, it's not so easy to buy.
If people want to pretend to be forced, there's no need to debunk it, right? Just give money, and that's it.
What do you care about so much?
Although Qi Hao was excited, he also knew that there were some things that needed to be kept secret, and he was not sure if he could say it or how much, so he set his eyes on Xie Yang.
"Mr. Qi, the first machinery group has a very strong strength, although we only provide CNC systems and core components, they are also our key customers, after all, our CNC system is not only supplied to equipment manufacturers, but also ordinary equipment CNC transformation ......"
Xie Yang said with a smile.
"What? Can you provide CNC transformation of ordinary machine tools? ”
This time it was Fei Yu's turn and couldn't sit still.
Numerical control transformation!
The First Machinery Group is most in demand.
The number of thousands of factories for ordinary equipment is not a small number, and the demand for CNC systems is not small.
There is a big cost gap between CNC transformation and the purchase of new CNC machine tools.
It just so happened that the first group, which had thousands of machinery factories, was short of money.
Otherwise, as for a procurement negotiation that lasts so long?
The cost of CNC transformation business is much lower than the cost of buying CNC machine tools, at least there is no need to buy machining equipment.
The transformation may not be able to compare the function and processing efficiency with the special CNC machine tool, and it is definitely not a problem to use it for rough machining and some products with low precision and large batches.
Fei Yulai suddenly stopped taking it.
"That's right. It's not just our machining workshops that are all CNC equipment that we have transformed......"
Qi Hao looked at Fei Yulai with a puzzled expression.
"Take me there!"
Fei Yulai didn't care whether this behavior was in line with his identity, grabbed one of Fei Yulai's arms, and said excitedly.
"Director Su, this ......"
Looking at Fei Yulai's excitement, Xiao Yuancheng suddenly felt bad.
Especially looking at the frozen smile on Su Mingqiang's face next to him.
I can't help but worry.
Once First Machinery Group decides to carry out CNC transformation of ordinary equipment on a large scale, it will have a great impact on their CNC machine tool business.
Su Mingqiang couldn't wait to give himself two slaps.
MMP!
Why didn't you think of this before?
In order to persuade Fei Yulai to give orders directly, they did not have the ability to develop CNC systems, so they brought the other party to Yanghong Technology.
It's all about shooting yourself in the foot.
Looking at the expressions of Su Mingqiang and Fei Yulai, Xie Yang smiled and shook his head.
"Director Qi, let's go to our CNC workshop with Mr. Fei."
The group went to the CNC workshop in a mighty way.
In the empty workshop, all the equipment is neatly installed, and all kinds of blanks and processed parts are neatly placed.
Even some old machine tools with mottled paint are wiped clean, while the CNC system on the old equipment is brand new, forming a strong contrast.
As soon as he entered the workshop, Fei Yulai was shocked by the neatness in the workshop.
It feels like entering a state-of-the-art machining factory abroad.
The neatness of the workshop, even more so than that of Prussia and the small book?
"Director Yang, can you tell Mr. Su about the situation in our workshop......"
Xie Yang asked Luo Xiaoli to say hello before.
Yang Dezhi had been waiting in the workshop for a long time.
Seeing Xie Yang waving, he hurried over.
"In our finishing workshop, all the equipment is transformed by ourselves......"
This kind of thing, Yang Dezhi has introduced I don't know how many times, and he has already formed a standardized rhetoric.
Fei Yulai watched and listened.
Several technicians who followed him ran to the equipment to watch the operation of the workers or ask the workers about some conditions.
The more Su Mingqiang looked at it, the stiffer the expression on his face became.
Xie Yang didn't speak during the whole process, but saw the expressions of both parties in his eyes.
"Mr. Xie, I have a reluctant request......
Finally, Su Mingqiang couldn't help it.
When Fei Yulai and the others continued to understand the situation, they took the initiative to fall behind and whispered to Xie Yang.
"Director Su is worried that if Mr. Fei chooses CNC transformation, it will affect your cooperation, right?"
Xie Yang didn't beat around the bush either.
Su Mingqiang's face flashed with embarrassment, and he immediately regained his composure: "Yes." If First Machinery Group chooses large-scale CNC transformation, our orders will be greatly affected......"
He did not deny it.
The time is too short.
Even if the professional improvement design is carried out, it is not much stronger than the numerical control transformation.
After all, the positioning is low-end from the beginning.
"Director Su, there is really no need to worry. There are so many factories under the First Machinery Group, and there is not much money in hand...... If you can save a lot of money when upgrading your production equipment......"
Xie Yang felt that the other party was too worried.
With the development of the economy, there is more and more demand for supporting various industries.
To become a factory in the world, I don't know how much machinery and equipment are needed.
Ordinary machine tools, even after 40 years, the market demand has been growing every year.
The world's manufacturing centers are responsible for most of the basic manufacturing industry, and this scale is no joke.
"The plan of the First Machinery Group is to purchase 10,000 sets of various types of CNC equipment, most of which are low-end equipment, although the demand for high-end equipment is large, but the international is not willing to sell ......"
Su Mingqiang looked at Xie Yang with a pleading expression.
I hope that Xie Yang will not undertake the business of the First Machine Tool Group.
"Mr. Su, before you came, Lin Zhigao, the director of Sanqi South and First Machine, had just left. He slept in my office for three days......"
Xie Yang felt that he had to give Su Mingqiang a touch.
Since Yunnan No. 1 has signed a strategic contract with Yanghong Technology, it is not enough to rely on these large customers.
Even if they are also state-owned enterprises, some benefits, or top-level equipment, are currently not available to the leaders of those enterprises that need to purchase equipment in southern Yunnan.
???
Su Mingqiang was confused.
MMP!
I'm telling you about cooperation, so that you don't rob our business, anyway, selling the whole machine to the first machinery group will not affect the sales of Yanghong Technology's CNC system, right?
Xie Yang is good, say Lin Zhigao to himself!
Have a dime relationship with Lin Zhigao?
"Director Lin has no orders for their products because of quality and other problems, so he is ready to sell them back to us......"
"It's up to him to think of it!" Su Mingqiang's eyes widened, looked at Xie Yang, and immediately thought of something, "What do you mean, is it that we will also sell the equipment back to Yanghong Technology?" Do you act as a middleman to make the difference? ”
Regarding Su Mingqiang's brain circuit, Xie Yang almost laughed.
Damn!
Resell!
Is you worse than one or two thousand profits per CNC machine?
"I didn't agree, but asked them to find a technical school and a technical secondary school with mechanical majors......"
"What! Such a good thing, why didn't you remind me before? ”
Su Mingqiang suddenly jumped up.
Xie Yang is not a person!
Such a large potential market reminds the poor technical level and the reputation of Sanqi South One Machine.
"Director Su, do you think that even if the contract is signed for this order, can you eat all the follow-up purchases of the First Machinery Group?"
Xie Yang was too lazy to explain the matter of pointing out Sanqi Nan's machine.
Su Mingqiang was even more confused.
He found that he couldn't keep up with Xie Yang's thinking.
"Director Xie, what do you want to say, just say it...... I'm too old to keep up with the thinking of you young people......"
Su Mingqiang took a deep breath and suppressed his complicated thoughts.
He knew that Xie Yang would not joke about this matter.
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