This righteous sentence made Zhu Quan, who was sitting in front of Academician Ding Zhongli, very excited!

Chinese people, when it is!

The Copenhagen climate conference proposed seven emission reduction plans, which are full of traps set by developed countries for developing countries, and these seven emission reduction plans are all extremely beneficial to developed countries and extremely unfavorable to developing countries.

The only difference is that there is a question of more and less exploitation of developing countries.

It's just that developing countries, or Chinese people, are not people?

Zhu Quan asked about this question: "We saw that because these seven emission reduction plans were not accepted by developing countries, the heads of these developed countries expressed relatively strong opinions at that time.

From his point of view, he would think, "Isn't it okay for me to set targets for myself?" ”

Academician Ding Zhongli let out a contemptuous laugh and said:

"Of course not.

The obvious implication of your target is that you want to take a bigger piece of the pie.

Then I can't set such a target in the future, that is, I will have as much per capita emissions as you in the future, which I won't overdo it!

I have lost a lot of emissions in history, and I will emit as much as you in the next 40 years, or to put it more bluntly, I will only need 80% of your per capita emissions from 1990 to 2050, okay? ”

Zhu Quan immediately nodded and said, "Of course not!" ”

As soon as these words came out, a look of surprise appeared on Academician Ding Zhongli's face:

Is this Zhu Quan also a "banana man"? No way! Didn't you just take a very firm position? How... Is it so hidden?

The other staff members of "Seeing" present were even more dumbfounded, swallowing their saliva nervously, and didn't dare to move, feeling that their careers were going to GG!

A mistake can also be used as an excuse for "unknown employment", and this second time... Although this was recommended by Kang Guangjun and assigned by the superiors, when it came to taking responsibility, weren't they still the program staff?

Lose your marbles!

Lu Caijian, who was watching from behind the camera, had no such worries.

Because he believes in Kang Guangjun's vision!

As expected, Zhu Quan continued: "Academician Ding, why is China's emissions only set at 80% of the per capita emissions of developed countries? I think it should be on par! ”

Everyone's hanging hearts suddenly fell, and the corners of Academician Ding Zhongli's mouth rose slightly.

Zhu Quan continued: "Of course, these are my thoughts as an ordinary Chinese citizen. I know that Academician Ding, and the Chinese scientists represented by you have put forward 80 percent of such data, which must have been rigorously calculated, and can make a plan to talk about China's interests. ”

Academician Ding Zhongli nodded and admitted such a statement.

Zhu Quan continued to dig deeper into this point, preparing to gradually expose the conspiracy of the developed countries: "We saw that at the Copenhagen climate conference, the speeches of those developed countries were particularly aimed at our country, and the excuses they used were:

Huaguo is a large country with a large population, and your multiplication by that base is too big.

However, such remarks are obviously discrimination and suppression against our Chinese people! ”

Academician Ding Zhongli gave a strong affirmation: "So at the meeting, I asked those people, are the Chinese people?

This is a fundamental question.

Why should the same Chinese be less ranked?

Do you count this in the unit of the country, or in the unit of the person? ”

Zhu Quan immediately said: "According to the speeches at this meeting, they feel that the current conventional algorithms are calculated by country, well... Because such an algorithm is beneficial to them. ”

Academician Ding Zhongli then spread his hands and said in an indifferent tone: "Then it's okay, then I won't forget it with you, I don't need to forget it with you."

Why? How many people are there in Monaco, and if our country is not as good as Monaco, then you are still unreasonable. ”

Zhu Quan saw Academician Ding Zhongli's side, smiled, and said: "Aren't Western countries representatives of barbarism? They use morality to wrap a coat and cloak themselves in the light of so-called "justice", but they do things that "lack morality".

So, after we rejected several proposals in a row, a new concept that they are now proposing is to say, I don't care if you are per capita, or rich or poor, now only in terms of large carbon emitters. ”

Ding Zhongli nodded and said: "I can admit that I am a major carbon emitter, so give us a number, how much we can emit, and how much developed countries will emit."

The developed countries allocate a number to themselves, to allocate them more and to us less.

Then I'll say, if we're the same, it's okay.

According to the G8 plan, 44 percent of the 800 billion tons of cake taken away by the 27 developed countries was taken away.

And how many people are in developed countries?

He has a population of 1.1 billion!

The remaining 5.5 billion people get 56 percent of the pie. ”

Zhu Quan pretended to hear such a data for the first time, and was surprised: "If you stipulate it like this, it's just too unfair!" ”

Ding Zhongli nodded and explained again:

"It's really unfair.

Let's just do the math.

If you were told that China would spend 1 trillion yuan a year to buy carbon dioxide emission rights from 2020 onwards, what would you think, and do you think it is fair or unfair? ”

Zhu Quan nodded, and then continued to ask: "I see that since you used more intense and emotional words at the Copenhagen climate conference, many people think that this is inappropriate, especially when discussing a "scientific" issue.

I would like to ask you, is this a deliberate way of expression?

And, from what we've just learned, it's definitely not just a "scientific" question, right? ”

Zhu Quan's attitude has always been very positive, a red heart towards Huaguo, towards the people of Huaguo, and towards the future young men of Huaguo.

Academician Ding Zhongli replied: "If you simply criticize their methods for being unfair, they will ignore you. So I had to use very strong language to get people's attention.

You are also right that this is not just a "scientific issue", or rather, a political issue! ”

Zhu Quan continued to ask: "At that time, you gave a speech at the conference, what was the reaction on the field after you went to put forward these views? I mean, what was the reaction of the representatives of the developed countries? ”

Academician Ding Zhongli recalled and said: "There was a lighthouse man on the field, and he asked a very good question, saying that the current question is what kind of action we may have to consider: how should China act?

Zhu Quan asked, "How did you respond?" ”

Ding Zhongli opened his mouth and replied:

I mean, I also agree that "action comes first".

I said that China is very simple, and if I were to make a proposal to the Chinese government, the Chinese government should make an ambitious long-term commitment to emissions. This commitment to long-term emissions is in one sentence. ”

Zhu Quan asked: "Is that the sentence you just put forward that "from 1990 to 2050, China's per capita emissions will resolutely not exceed 80 percent of the level of developed countries in the same period?" ”

Ding Zhongli nodded and said, "Yes, that's it."

The goal we set is: no matter how much you try to reduce emissions, I will do less than you, and I must do it.

And you developed countries have already built all the infrastructure, and many of our countries have not built yet, so in the context of such a stage of development, China should put forward such a plan, so that the world can see that China is much more ambitious than you in dealing with climate change. ”

Zhu Quan was also quite proud, and said with honor: "That's!" Our country has been a responsible big country since ancient times, and it is much more civilized than the hypocritical developed countries of the West! ”

Academician Ding Zhongli said with a smile: "Later, the people of the Lighthouse Country had no way to fight with me, and then after a meeting, a Belgian person told me that he said that you answered very well, and he was very much in favor. ”

Zhu Quan concluded: "Because the one from the Lighthouse Country has no way to argue with you, he is already in an unkind and unjust position, how can he be compared with us?"

You said that the right to emissions is considered the right to development, and the right to development is one of the fundamental human rights.

For the sake of fairness, our proposal that "there should be roughly equal emission space between people" is very correct.

The key point in the failure to reach effective agreement is that developed countries have selfish intentions to monopolize this emission right in order to maintain their leading position. ”