Next, Zhu Quan continued the interview:

"Academician Ding, we know that in the scientific community there are not only your objections, but also other opposing and doubtful voices. But we have the impression that because the IPCC is a research organization, and it is also a research organization where scientists from various countries come together and come up with a report, and because of this report as the basis, countries from all over the world will go there to have a climate conference, so it gives us the impression that it is recognized by the so-called "mainstream" scientific community. ”

When Zhu Quan said the word "mainstream", he specially raised his two hands and put quotation marks on both sides of his head.

Academician Ding asked rhetorically: "Is there a mainstream for scientists?" ”

Zhu Quan smiled, which led to the next question, and said, "I don't think so!" However, many people mistakenly think that there is, just like the conclusion of the IPCC, if we don't dig deeper, then after so many years of overwhelming publicity, we naturally think that this is right. ”

Academician Ding sighed and said, "Not all authoritative bodies have made the right conclusions. Not to mention that the IPCC is not an authoritative body at all.

Is the so-called "mainstream" scientist based on the number of people?

No, it's not!

Science is the judgment of truth. ”

Zhu Quan nodded approvingly and echoed:

"Academician Ding, what you said is so right.

It's like Copernicus's heliocentrism, of course, now we know that the sun is not the center of the universe, but at the time, this was a huge breakthrough that overturned the "geocentric theory"! was brutalized by the so-called "mainstream" scientific community at the time.

Can I think so, these theories advocated by the Western countries are all wrong!

They designed a model that was beneficial to their own interests, came to a conclusion that was beneficial to themselves, and then told us that 'we have reached a tipping point where we humans are emitting a lot of carbon dioxide gases that are causing the global climate to warm.'" We have to reduce emissions...'.

In fact, they are saying, 'We developed countries have developed well, but you developing countries cannot develop.'"

Academician Ding, can I think so? ”

Academician Ding Zhongli's face froze, his voice was very solemn, and he said: "They won't say it explicitly, they will do all this in an extremely ingenious way.

If we look around at the development of this whole thing, that is, the "three-step" strategy of promoting "global warming" through the media, then proving it with seemingly professional research, and filming a large number of disaster films about "global warming" at the same time, is slowly instilled in ordinary people.

And when the world agreed on the false fact of "global warming", the so-called "carbon emission rights" were introduced as a virtual resource. ”

After a pause, Academician Ding Zhongli continued to explain: "So after straightening out this whole incident, we can easily understand what their purpose is. ”

"We want to maintain their hegemonic status, implement a monopoly policy, and curb the development momentum of our developing countries..."

Zhu Quan said the hidden meaning in Academician Ding Zhongli's words.

This is also what Academician Ding Zhongli said in the previous interview.

"And how did you find out?"

Zhu Quan asked.

Academician Ding Zhongli did not directly answer Zhu Quan's question, but said something else:

"When I saw the results of the IPCC report, I saw that their choice of words and sentences was full of "approximately", "probably", "suspiciously", "maybe"... There are no exact words at all, and even the final conclusion is an adverb of "very likely". ”

Zhu Quan extended and summarized: "You mean, when you didn't start your research, you just read this report and found that something was wrong, so you started researching? ”

"Research has been researching all along, but the appearance of that report has accelerated the speed of my research." Academician Ding replied: "Anyone who reads the original text of this report will feel incredible! Full of doubts! However, such a report was called an "authoritative investigation result" by the Western media, is the "conspiracy" behind it more prevalent? ”

"The conspiracy behind this is what you told us earlier!" Zhu Quan pointed to the question again, and continued to ask questions, trying to let Academician Ding explain in detail: "Then the conclusion of this report is not a factual judgment, but a value judgment, and it is packaged as a "factual judgment". ”

Academician Ding Zhongli is very satisfied with Zhu Quan's professional summary, and a comparison between the two can simply see the difference between Chai Jinger and Zhu Quan in terms of ideological realm.

It's not that Zhu Quan is much taller than Chai Jing'er in the Mountain of Knowledge, but that "the ass is positive" brings "positive angles", and thus the "views and conclusions are positive".

From their point of view, it is only right for these people who worship foreigners, such as the public knowledge and banana people, to think about their masters and speak for their masters.

Therefore, no matter how much you explain it to them, they still have no way to agree with them.

Therefore, the broadcast of this interview program is to suppress the voices of these public intellectuals and win over the recognition of more ordinary people.

At first, the National Television did not plan to re-record the program, so it directly used the video of Chai Jinger's interview to play it.

The reason is simple.

Although Chai Jing'er's position was incorrect, Academician Ding Zhongli completely suppressed Chai Jing'er in the interview, and despised Chai Jing'er's words beyond measure.

In this way, the patriotic enthusiasm of the Chinese people has been greatly boosted.

It's just that "Under the Sky" was exposed, and Chai Jing'er's programs were all canceled and blocked, so Zhu Quan was able to accept the order and fight as a firm red heart.

Therefore, the reason why it is important to emphasize that this is only a value judgment is that in the original IPCC report, there is no 100% confirmation that climate warming is the result of carbon dioxide produced by human activities, and there is no precise data on how much carbon dioxide affects climate warming.

However, the calculation of the future emission space should be based on the warming effect of carbon dioxide.

ACCORDING TO THE CONSENSUS OF THE "2 DEGREES" THRESHOLD, THE MAXIMUM PEAK OF CARBON DIOXIDE CONCENTRATION IN THE ATMOSPHERE CAN ONLY BE CONTROLLED WITHIN 450 PPM BY 2050.

In other words, by 2050, the maximum amount of carbon dioxide emissions in the world will be about 800 billion tons.

Academician Ding Zhongli explained: "When I knew the total amount of carbon dioxide emissions, I immediately realized that this amount is very, very small.

That is to say, for example, if I give an example, we are now emitting 1.4 tons of carbon per capita, not carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide and carbon have a coefficient of 3.67 (times), if the target of 450PPM is set, then the per capita emissions in the future will only be 0.8 tons of carbon. ”

Zhu Quan asked: "That is to say, 0.8 tons of carbon is a ceiling, right?" ”

Ding Zhongli nodded and affirmed: "Yes, if you fall down all of a sudden, it will be from your 1.4 to 0.8, this is the number of people who can't change yet, and when it's still 6.5 billion people, if the population is going to increase, the gap between your numbers will go up." ”

After a pause, Ding Zhongli summed it up in a righteous manner: "We agree with China's emission reduction, but we must not follow the Copenhagen climate conference's plan that is extremely detrimental to China's economic development." ”