Zhu Jingyuan listened to Wang Lai's explanation and nodded slightly, basically agreeing with Wang Lai's judgment.

However, at the same time, I also vaguely felt in my heart that the Ming warship designers led by Wang Lai were still relatively optimistic in their predictions about the process of exploring the aircraft carrier design of the Taixi people.

It is probably because he directly gave a mature aircraft carrier design, so that Wang Lai and other designers do not have a sufficiently accurate understanding of the difficulty of groping for aircraft carrier design from scratch.

A large number of specialized designs directly given by myself are all accumulated by decades of continuous exploration and accumulation in many countries in the previous life.

Now if he and Daming don't steal lessons from the Taixi people, it will probably take decades for them to come up with a truly mature design.

However, if it is just to build a working aircraft carrier, it should not take too long.

The most critical design of a traditional aircraft carrier is a full straight deck, as long as they train on a half-deck cruiser converted aircraft carrier, after a few more pilots fall to death, they should think of it.

To have a fully accessible deck, either do not have a bridge, or put the bridge on the side, and here you can make another mistake.

What they could not quickly determine was the design of the more rational structure of the bridge, the shape and fluge of the deck, the arrangement and specifications of the lifts, and the reasonable specifications of the hangar.

Zhu Jingyuan thought about it for a while, and then asked Wang Lai another question:

"Now that the construction of the 60,000-ton battleship has started, and the design of our 60,000-ton aircraft carrier has not been finalized for a long time, what is the biggest difficulty at present?"

This kind of question is what Wang Lai thinks about day and night, so now he answers directly without thinking:

"One is structural and navigational stability.

"The higher the flight deck, the larger the float structure, and the highly asymmetrical float structure.

"How stable are these designs in various sailing attitudes?

"Whether it can really meet the actual combat seeking.

"One is the specifications of the catapult.

"The steam catapult currently being tested can propel a twelve-ton aircraft to two hundred and twenty kilometers per hour.

"There is still a big distance from the thirty tons and three hundred kilometers that you requested.

"Although the R&D team of the steam catapult is guaranteed to be able to increase the thrust to more than 16 tons within a year.

"We also believe that they will definitely be able to do sixteen tons.

"However, 16 tonnes versus 30 tonnes is still a very different level of data.

"From 12 to 16 tons, it should be possible without changing the underlying design.

"But from 16 to 30 tons, it's not necessarily possible.

"If you need to change the underlying design in the future, even if you make a reservation now, it may not be reasonable.

"Finally, there is the concern about the service life.

"According to your assumptions, an aircraft carrier of this size and design will be the main force of long-term use by the Navy in the future.

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"They should last fifty years.

"Fifty years has put a lot of pressure on the designers, and they are hesitant in many places.

"Because fifty years from now, it's really unpredictable."

When Zhu Jingyuan heard these explanations, he first nodded and then shook his head.

Of course, these problems are indeed problems, but they are problems that cannot be solved directly by themselves.

I can only give the guiding ideology, give the technical indicators and directions, but I can't achieve it.

At most, I am on the spiritual level, helping the craftsmen to emancipate their minds as much as possible.

The craftsmen of the Ming Dynasty are a very broad term.

This includes scientific researchers, process developers, and engineers.

It also includes on-site construction personnel, technical engineering personnel who do the work, and follow-up testers.

Finally, there are craftsmen like Wang Lai and Li Rui.

He was used to calling each other "so-and-so".

The person in charge of a department or a project can usually be called "big engineer" or "chief engineer".

Zhu Jingyuan sorted out his thinking and logic a little, and tried to convey his thoughts to Wang Lai, the head of craftsmen:

"A 60,000-ton aircraft carrier, unlike a 60,000-ton battleship, is not a pure scale enlargement.

"The 60,000-ton aircraft carrier can still be regarded as a brand new warship, so the first one can still be treated as an experimental ship.

"The designer only needs to make sure that the theory is reasonable, and there is no need to assure the construction department that it will be easy to use after completion.

"But they want to give a probability of feasibility, such as at what level of rollover it is likely to capsize.

"As for the anticipation space of the catapult, it also doesn't need to be too rigid.

"The space is reserved, not only can it be used, there is a margin that can be diverted for other purposes, and if it is not enough, it can be repurposed.

"After the experimental ship was built, it was completely normal to have many modification tests.

"The weight of 30 tons I mentioned, the speed of 300 kilometers per hour, is just an empty target.

"There is no need to be stuck on this goal, didn't the R&D team say that it can achieve 16 tons?

"Then the design standard of the first type of catapult is according to sixteen tons.

"If you achieve the target of sixteen tons, you will be able to go directly to the ship.

"And the last 50 years, which is more of a personal assessment for me, not a target for the design team.

"If I had to use it as an indicator, it would be for the engineering and process department.

"They want to make sure that after the hull is built, if it is properly maintained, it will not be damaged and unusable within 50 years.

"As long as it's not war damage, it's going to be repaired in at least 50 years.

"As for the things on the hull, it is estimated that they can be replaced with three wheels in fifty years.

"Nowadays, the development of technology is very rapid, the construction cycle of large warships is long, and it is not new to fall behind when they are built.

"Let the craftsmen not be afraid and bring out the best technology they can do at the moment."

Zhu Jingyuan said a lot of things intermittently, just to make Wang Lai believe that he was very receptive, and let them be sure that they would not use casual words as acceptance criteria.

Wang Lai is also very familiar with Zhu Jingyuan and knows that Zhu Jingyuan is not polite in this situation.

If Zhu Jingyuan puts forward some hard indicators, it must be a requirement that must be fulfilled.

Just like the speed of 30 knots at the beginning, and the 1,360 kilograms of shells later, if you can't get it, you won't finalize it.

Now that it's said in the mouth, that's what it must be.

Wang Lai's heart was really relaxed.

Then several people at the scene continued to discuss the situation in various aspects on this topic.

When the time was close to noon, Wang Lai seemed to suddenly think of something, and once again mentioned the shipbuilding plan of the Taixi people.

"By the way, Your Majesty, Your Highness, the ship-building activities of the Tessie countries seem to have entered a state of some kind of competition.

"The British want to make sure that they have more new warships than any other country on the continent of Tessie.

"The Prussians, on the other hand, were aimed at the British, preparing to raise the number of capital ships to the same level as the British.

"The Lucians, for their part, tried to ensure that the number of large-caliber artillery was not lower than that of any country.

"The French seem to be the most stressful one to play against the Italians and Spaniards in the Great Qin Sea, against the Portuguese in the Atlantic, and against the English in the English Channel.

"The French shipbuilding plan also had to follow the British, and also ensure that the number of capital ships was not less than that of the British.

"The Italians seem to be communicating with the Prussians, possibly exchanging their triple-mounted turret design for Prussian technology for larger caliber artillery, while defending themselves against the French and Austrians together.

"The Austrians seem to have a relatively easy time navigating with the Italians and Ottomans, but the conditions at sea are so harsh that the Ottomans and the Italians can block their access to the sea.

"And Austria was just as harsh on land, sandwiched between Prussia, Lucia, and the Ottomans.

Austria would have preferred Lucia and Prussia to have more power at sea, because Austria's contradictions with them at sea were not as obvious as they were on land.

"Therefore, Austria's goal seems to be to require that the number of capital ships be no less than theirs, but the tonnage and firepower of a single ship can be relaxed, so as to save the cost of building ships as much as possible.

"The Ottomans were the weakest in industrial technology, but they were very honest and bought directly from us.

"So the level of warships that can be obtained is actually not lower than the ...... of the Taixi countries"

Wang took a breath when he said this, and Zhu Zhongliang interjected when he saw this:

"In terms of the situation and financial situation of the Tessie countries, can they be so tormented in the navy?

"The Taixi countries suffered heavy losses in the world war, and after the war, they had to pay reparations and resume construction, and their finances were not sufficient.

"For those cutting-edge high-speed warships, all the countries of Taixi have to independently develop and build factories and docks on their own.

"Their total R&D and construction costs should be much higher than ours."

Wang Lai immediately responded:

"Your Majesty, the news that the minister has received from all sides shows that the countries of Taixi are now struggling to build their navies.

"It's like Austria, he wants to save the cost of building ships, but how much lower can the savings be for a warship of this size?

"The cost of research and development is certain, and the smaller the number of warships planned to be built, the more difficult it is to suppress the cost of a single ship.

"Our Daming corresponds to the entire Taixi ship, and the cost of a single ship has been declining since the technology matured.

"So even if you come up with the same funds, in the end, the warships built by Daming will be more numerous and of better quality."

Zhu Jingyuan listened to the conversation between Wang Lai and Zhu Zhongliang, and always felt that something was wrong.

The Tessie people may be wrestling in the shipbuilding competition, and the craftsmen of the Ming Dynasty don't seem to pay much attention to it?

There was no fear that the Tessie Navy would pose a threat to the Ming Dynasty, nor was there an obvious surprise because of their struggle.

On the contrary, it reveals a feeling of disgust and contempt.

It seems a bit like the heart of a European in the face of a naval race in South America in the last life.

It may be a little more important than that, but it is far from the level of the naval competition that European and American countries faced in the previous life.

As for the cooperative tendencies of the Prussians and Italy, this is actually quite easy to understand.

This is not some historical inertia, but the environmental pattern of the two countries.

Although the two countries share a land border, they are separated by the Alps, the largest mountain range in Tessie.

The two countries are basically in a state of mutual non-influence on land.

The navies of the two countries are operating in the North Sea and the Baltic Sea, and in the Great Qin Sea, and they can't get together at all.

Prussia was the land of the four wars on the continent of Tessie, but the south was the safest in comparison.

Italy was the Tessie country with the fewest natural contradictions with Prussia, and it was also the most suitable ally for Prussia to woo.

But the circumstances of Italy at the same time determined that he would not be a loyal ally of Prussia.

Italy is surrounded by the Alps and has a high degree of independence on land.

But as a peninsula, it does not have any strategic depth in itself.

The sea is surrounded by France, Spain, Austria, and the Ottomans.

On the contrary, it was almost impossible for the Prussian navy on the other side of the world to directly intervene in Italy.

For the Italian businessman, who was good at watching the wind and steering, it seemed the most natural choice to first become an ally of Prussia when the situation was not bright, and then change his strategy according to the actual situation.

Anyway, the Prussians couldn't do anything to the Italians.

Zhu Jingyuan himself, compared with all the Ming people, attaches more importance to the Taixi people.

When I heard this, I couldn't help but remind:

"Since we have a tendency to cooperate with the Italians and Prussians, then we should put a stop to it, right?

"Say, to supply the Italians with the technology for the manufacture of 360-mm guns.

"As long as they pay for it, we can sell them finished guns, even turrets of specified standards.

"Of course, electroslag remelting technology is not included.

"At the same time to Prussia...... and Lucia and other Ctesi countries, selling designs for triple turrets.

"I can tell them that they can't build a few ships in total anyway, and they can't use dozens of guns in total.

"In this case, the cost of their own research and development is too high, but it is more cost-effective to buy the finished product directly.

"We don't just sell products, we also sell services, and we can provide complete maintenance, replacement, and upgrade services.

"I won't sell it out and leave it alone, I want to relieve their worries.

"Let them understand that for a country like theirs, there is a truth that it is better to buy than to build.

"Of course, if they're willing to pay a lot of money, we can provide the technology and even help them build the production line.

Of course, it also does not include the latest electroslag remelting technology.

"Let all the countries of Taixi trade with Da Ming alone, anyway, Da Ming can be regarded as everything.

"Avoid them communicating too much internally and eventually having a tendency to be united."

Zhu Zhongliang has a small book of Emperor Shizu, so although the importance of the Taixi people is lower than that of Zhu Jingyuan, who has witnessed it, it is also higher than that of other Ming people.

When he heard the words "joint tendencies", he immediately nodded his head in agreement, then stroked his beard and said with a smile:

"One thing to say, for the current Taixi countries, it is indeed better to buy than to build.

"Buying our finished guns directly can reduce their financial pressure and reduce the pressure of competition in building ships.

"The key is that the technology will become more and more complex in the future, and the proportion of R&D costs in the equipment will be increasing.

"If they can't conduct joint research and development to amortize this part of the cost, they will always be pressed by our Daming in the future.

"The prediction that they should avoid a joint tendency is of course correct.

"But it's useless for you to tell Wang Gong and Li Gong that these things are big craftsmen, so they don't engage in these intrigues.

"You have to write a recital for your father and Mr. Shen and bring it up."

When Zhu Jingyuan heard his grandfather's words, he immediately thought of the relationship between the Taixi countries and the United States after World War II.

By the time of the Cold War, the countries of Tessie and Spain had to unite in order to still have a place in military technology.

This is determined by the size of the country.

After the completion of the Second Industrial Revolution, it will be difficult for a single Tessie country to maintain a complete industrial system.

It's not just a matter of the number of workers and technicians.

Another very key reason is that the cost cannot be amortized due to insufficient production.

If there were no bigger countries in the world, they would be able to barely sustain themselves, even if the cost of their own research and development was high.

The point is that when yes in the world, there is the United States, which is able to spread the costs, as their direct competitor.

The Tessie countries completely lost their competitive advantage in front of the United States.

At the technical level, it was completely suppressed by the United States and reduced to a part of the American industrial chain.

The current Ming Dynasty seems to be able to replace the position of the United States...... It should be the multiple status of the United States with Red Lucia.

It is necessary not only to make them inseparable from Daming, but also to maintain threats and suppression of them.

They cannot yet be united to form the European Union or a new Rome.

This is indeed quite an important thing.

So Zhu Jingyuan nodded quite seriously and agreed:

"I understand, I'll write a special piece when I go back, and then go to my father and Mr. Shen to discuss it on the spot."