Yang Lan has a purple shirt and a short black skirt.

The usual OL style.

It's pretty much the same as on TV.

But when you look at this face, it's hard to rise up the feeling of watching the OL series...

It feels alienated, not ... That feeling!

In fact, before the interview, I had already done my homework...

But listening to her talk about "Me and the Altar of Earth" is still quite moving...

"Wang Xiaobo, do you like it too?"

"Yes!" Shen Xudong nodded: "At first, I watched a short story "A Maverick Pig", and then I found "Golden Age" and "The Silent Majority", which is really good!" ”

“… I thought it was "East Palace and West Palace"..."

"East Palace and West Palace", a work written by Wang Xiaobo, and was shortlisted for the 1997 Cannes International Film Festival...

Of course, I didn't win the prize!

In Cannes that year, Wang Jiawei joined the best director with "Happy Spring"...

""East Palace and West Palace" is not good, I always think that it is necessary to shoot homosexuality, and it is best to shoot the same as a romance movie, which makes people moved by love, rather than out of the psychology of inquiry, the fun of scrutiny..."

"That's hard!"

Shen Xudong smiled, and then said, "Love always wins!" ”

“… Let's talk about something else, you don't like Wang Shuo? ”

"I can't talk about whether I like it or not, I've watched a lot of her works, "Play is a heartbeat", "Half of the sea, half of the fire", "Don't treat me as a human", "Animal Fierce"... I'll be honest, just read one or two copies! ”

"Huh?"

"It's about deconstructing authority... I've seen too much of that set, it's boring! ”

……

Wang Shuo, Shen Xudong is reluctant to talk more...

He was the darling of the tide of the previous era, but at the turn of the century, he stepped into the gap between two giant teeth.

I went to the United States in '97, and when I came back, I wanted to prove myself again.

Intensively launched "I Look at Jin Yong", "I Look at Lu Xun", "I Look at Lao She", which was spicy and caused an uproar all over the world...

He has a passage in "I Look at Wang Shuo", which probably means that if he has been in retreat for 20 years, he will definitely be able to write a good book, "the most bad thing to write "Gone with the Wind", if you are not careful, it is "Dream of Red Mansions"".

This is completely overthinking, if he deliberately writes a book, there must be only one result - disaster.

It's a mess.

Don't talk about "Dream of Red Mansions", he won't even touch the edge of "Gone with the Wind".

Creation of this thing, it has a peak, there are highs and lows, writing requires strength, most of the really powerful works are completed in the prime of the writer, very few people can create the peak of the work in their later years.

If a person at the peak of his creation can only create a work like "Addicted to Death", how can he expect him to create "Dream of Red Mansions" during the decline period of creation?

Sure enough, "My Chitose Cold"...

The scolding was overwhelming.

But Shen Xudong is now a member of the BJ literary circle, and it is not easy to criticize his own people, not to mention that Wang Shuo is still his predecessor.

……

"Talk about "No. 1 in the World", what do you think of this TV series?"

Yang Lan changed the subject.

Shen Xudong smiled: "I feel very good, I have the feeling of watching "Lotus Battle" back then, that is, the plot is not bloody enough..."

"Dog blood?"

"You shouldn't have watched "Lotus Battle", right? is a Singaporean martial arts drama, based on Gu Long's "Meteor Butterfly Sword" and Jin Yong's "Smiling Proud Jianghu"..."

"Huh? Gu Long and Jin Yong? ”

After a pause, Shen Xudong continued: "I always think that before making a drama, you should first clarify your positioning, you are like "No. 1 in the World", that is an entertaining martial arts drama, there is no need to be strict about the rigor and documentary nature of the drama, good-looking is the most important thing!" ”

"You just said that the plot is bloody..."

"Oh, "Lotus Battle" has a sister-brother relationship, and a stepmother falls in love with her son, and my so-called dog blood is actually a dramatic meaning..."

"So, what do you mean that "No. 1 in the World" has high ratings?"

Shen Xudong nodded: "Almost!" ”

Yang Lan then asked: "What about "Golden Branch Desire"? ”

""The Golden Bough Desire" is different, its plot is serious..."

In fact, it is just some clichés, nothing more than two criteria for judging - expert taste and the market itself...

Shen Xudong is not only ratings, but what some so-called critics say is too ugly, they evaluate "No. 1 in the World" - the first bad movie of the year...

Why is it the first bad movie?

After chatting for about half an hour, the topic finally shifted to the movie.

"I heard you're going to Venice in two days?"

"Hmm..."

"Distinguished Citizen... That's the name, right? ”

"Yes..."Citizen of Distinction was the first film script I wrote..."

"The first one?"

"Yes..."No. 1 in the World" was filming, I met Mr. Chen Daoming, he encouraged me to write a few movie scripts, I thought he was making an appointment, so I created the script of "Outstanding Citizen" in his image... He liked it so much that he asked a director to shoot it..."

"Are you happy to be shortlisted in Venice?"

"Of course there are happy emotions, but more often than not, there are accidents!"

"Accident?"

"Our students in the Department of Drama and Literature have summarized the commonalities of award-winning films at European film festivals, but any genre that criticizes the system, exposes the inferiority of the nation, involves religion and the like, and can meet the curious needs of Western filmmakers, is easy to be shortlisted for the film festival..."Without giving Yang Lan a chance to ask questions, Shen Xudong continued: ""Outstanding Citizen" does not contain these elements..."

"Let's not talk about 'Citizen Illustrian'... What are some of the genres you just mentioned that are easy to shortlist for film festivals? ”

“… That's right, the perspective of Western film festivals is definitely Western, and if you want to participate, you have to stand in their perspective and figure out what they are interested in..."

Shen Xudong talked about the content of "Film Theory and Criticism", and then said: "This is also the reason why the works of many sixth-generation directors are criticized, although the film is a good movie, and the mentality of the directors may be complicated, subtle or helpless, but it is an indisputable fact that their works are influenced by Western film festivals." ”

Yang Lan answered: "Loyalty and filial piety can't be both? ”

"Yes, that means!"

"And why was "Outstanding Citizen" shortlisted?"

Shen Xudong thought for a moment, and then replied: "I think it should be an interesting point of view... The protagonist won a literary award, but in China, there is a voice that says, 'His work is the kind of person who scandalizes his own country to win a literary award from another country'..."

"I know what kind of movie it is!"

"No, my script is full of satire... And there is no point of view..."

Yang Lan glanced at him a little surprised: "So, do you think the sixth generation is wrong?" ”

"In the beginning, they were warriors, but now, they should just make a living by making a name for themselves... Otherwise, who is marketized, why not come out and make commercial films to please the audience in their own country? The Chinese audience is so low-level that they don't deserve to see your art? After a pause, Shen Xudong said: "Now there is a saying that if you want to be a director in China, you must first make a name for yourself overseas... Just make a film or two that criticizes China! ”

(End of chapter)