Shen Xudong hasn't recorded a variety show for many years...

The main thing is still not suitable.

Suddenly he is not an artist, and he doesn't need exposure support.

In addition, he is not Ma Yun, he doesn't need to create a personality, and he doesn't want to be a business leader, in a word: he has no need to be on variety shows!

And... The popular reality show at this stage is not for him either...

As for interview variety shows...

He was too lazy to participate and agreed to "Thirteen Invitations", just because Xu Zhiyuan...

It's not that I think Xu Zhiyuan is cultured, I don't appreciate him, I just want to chat!

In fact, Xu Zhiyuan sells anxiety, and many of the things he writes are also picking up people's teeth, for example, Xu Zhiyuan wrote "Xu Zhiyuan: Reimagining India" and "Xu Zhiyuan: To India!" The content in it is exactly the same as Lei Jun's "Learning from India" written in 2001...

That's right, it's Xiaomi's Lei Jun.

Has Lei Jun ever sold his intellectual character?

As for Xu Zhiyuan's masterpiece "Those Sad Young People", it feels like Mr. Guo, who looks at the sky at 45 degrees...

And it's not as interesting as what Guo Jingming wrote!

Should I say it or not, Guo Jingming's rhetoric is gorgeous, the writing is delicate, and the plot twists and turns... Of course, the content is empty, but it is really interesting, and I recommend "Sadness Flows Into a River"...

……

To meet, Shen Xudong put on a headset and sat down.

The place of the interview is the rest area of the company, near the balcony ...

The sun is setting, and dusk is behind them, reflecting the faces of the two people.

Xu Zhiyuan said first: "I have read your "Long Season", and it is really well written! ”

"Thank you," Shen Xudong smiled: "That's when I traveled to the Northeast, I had a feeling, and then I wrote it." ”

“… I'm curious... Thank you..."

The staff brought two cups of tea, Xu Zhiyuan took it, thanked him, and then asked Shen Xudong: "Don't you drink coffee?" ”

"I usually have a cup in the morning and tea in the afternoon..."

"That's... When did you start drinking tea? ”

"When I was a freshman... I don't smoke, and when I write, I'm used to having a cup of green tea at hand..."

"I feel that the subject matter of what you write is too wide, martial arts, Xianxia, and then realism..."

Shen Xudong said casually: "That will be young, and there are a lot of ideas..."

"Of the three major writers born in the 80s, only you have been insisting on writing..."

"It's better not to use the word 'persistence' in writing, I write because I like... I just have the desire to express myself..."

"Filmmaking too?"

"Yes!" Shen Xudong nodded: "Film itself is also an expressive art, if I don't have the desire to express myself, I won't make movies..."

"But most of the films you make are commercial!"

"Because what I'm going to do, the investment is huge, the investment is huge, and the number of people involved is huge.

To ensure that the input is recycled, it is necessary to pursue commercial value. ”

"And his artistic value..."

Shen Xudong waved his hand: "Then do you say that what I wrote has any artistic value?" I don't think so, but they're all selling well..."

After a pause, Shen Xudong continued: "Most of the most valuable paintings in the global art market are famous paintings. This is true both at home and abroad. So these famous paintings are hung in the most awesome art museums, they are enough to be called works of art, and works of art are naturally artistic, don't you object to this? ”

"Yes!"

"So, you can take a look at the prices of these famous paintings, and it is not an exaggeration to describe them as sky-high. Price is not a concrete manifestation of commerciality. Are these objects commercial? Are artistry and commerciality contradictory, irreconcilable, and incompatible? ”

"The high-grossing commercial film itself has a certain artistic reference... A collection of sound and light, a film with tens of thousands of people participating, no matter what genre it is, how can it not be artistic? ”

"Commercial films, literary films, commercial films, in my opinion, are fast and proven to be effective "routines" to quickly complete the transmission of values. To put it simply, there is no reading threshold, art films care more about the author's self-expression, and the reading threshold is relatively high, of course, many so-called art films just don't know how to tell stories..."

……

When communicating with Xu Zhiyuan, he will definitely talk about commercial films, literary films...

Shen Xudong has long been free of this trouble.

Cinema belongs to popular art.

Judging from the current environment, the commercial value of the film is more important!

Compared with the artistic value, the commercial value of keeping the film alive is obviously more important.

There is a group of people who just want to rely on standards to advertise themselves...

People can be proud and proud, and even those who really have the ability to be proud have the right to be arrogant, but one thing is clear, those who laugh at others with their own aesthetic rules, and even try to change others, have been crushed to the end by the steel torrent of the people.

Pulling it back, Xu Zhiyuan asked about the times - Xu Zhiyuan asked the trifecta, 'What do you think of the times?' 'What do you think of intellectuals?' And 'What do you think of this circle?' ’

Shen Xudong was stunned for a moment...

Era?

This topic is also too broad, and Shen Xudong didn't know how to answer for a while.

After thinking about it, he replied: "The general direction is that the East and the West are going to opposition..."

"Opposite?"

"You don't know about the South China Sea?"

Xu Zhiyuan scratched his head in embarrassment...

Shen Xudong continued: "When I was about 20 years old, I also felt that the West, especially the United States, was always used as an imaginary enemy in our textbooks, and intentionally or unintentionally deepened the hostile consciousness, which was not conducive to the development of relations between countries in the context of world peace.

Then as the world changes, the country develops, and the world looks over the wall. It can only be said that the description of the general trend of the world in the textbook is correct, but the problem is that it is too straightforward, unlike the West, which subtly makes you identify with it.

In fact, if we want to let Westerners bear what the West has done to the world in the past 300 years, Westerners will feel that this is a curse on them..."

"Do you think it's going to be antagonistic?"

"The antagonism will definitely intensify... Because we are facing great changes unseen in a century! ”

The so-called "great changes unseen in a century" are in fact an objective exposition of the changes in the existing international forces.

This change exists objectively, and it exists objectively without the transfer of human will.

Throughout human history, as long as there is change, it will inevitably mean that the existing international order will be reshuffled, and some forces will inevitably lose certain interests, and some forces will inevitably gain certain benefits, until a new strategic balance arrives.

"Today's comprehensive strength of China far exceeds that of the Soviet Union back then, but how much interest does the Soviet Union match? China is still trapped in the first island chain... The strategic determination of China and the United States not to do anything with each other comes at the expense of the interests of other countries and regions.

At that time, in addition to the economies of China and the United States, the other major economies in the world will be in a mess, which is the inevitable law of development! ”

This time, Xu Zhiyuan was stunned, what he wanted to ask was, 'What do you think of this impetuous era,' Shen Xudong replied to the international situation...

Aren't you a film and television business?