133. Card patents, right? Then I'll research a patent myself!

"Mr. Luo, what I'm talking about must be a lithography machine, what else can it be?"

"Of course, it is not only necessary to overcome the difficulty of lithography machine, but also other technologies!"

"However, the 28nm lithography machine we are researching is about to succeed, and when the time comes, I believe that with our continuous efforts, we will be able to find a more powerful EUV lithography machine!"

In Ji Shunqing's tone, there was a sense of arrogance in it.

And Ji Shunqing didn't want to talk to Luo Feng about the production of 5nm-level chips at all.

Because it seems unlikely.

Although many people call it "28nm lithography machine", it actually refers to a lithography machine that can be used in the manufacture of 28nm chips, that is, a 193nm argon fluoride laser is used as a light source to use a mask miniature projection.

"Yes, in our country, we have indeed suffered too much in this field, and we have worked hard, but it seems that the breakthrough is not worth our efforts, right?"

"Yes!"

The other party still nodded, this is not bad, domestic experts, and even officials, also greatly support and give funds.

But because of a lot of technology, it was stuck in the neck, and no matter how hard everyone tried, it didn't really solve the current gap.

It's really a bit practical, and I'm sorry for everyone's efforts.

Seeing that the other party didn't seem to want to talk about this matter, Luo Feng was not unhappy, but felt that it was too ordinary, and continued to ask: "So Mr. Ji, do you think that if the problem of 5nm lithography equipment can be solved, then are there any other problems?" ”

If you don't understand, just ask, this is one of Luofeng's purposes.

Because even if Luo Feng is barely regarded as an intellectual, it is impossible to eat this field thoroughly in a short period of time.

Belong to the kind of apprentice who casually looks at the information and then is just an entry-level apprentice in this field.

"If the matter of this lithography machine can be solved, we are still facing a lot of problems, just high-purity crystalline silicon wafers, our wafer factory can not solve it completely, although we are indeed put into production, but the production of crystalline silicon, is and the world's advanced technology, there is a significant gap!"

Seeing that the other party insisted on asking this, Ji Shunqing naturally asked questions honestly.

That's not all I said.

The problem of chips, the lack of technology in China, the lack of equipment, and the lack of raw materials are too many to say.

Otherwise, how could this field be so restricted?

To be honest, many people can't understand why China can build an atomic bomb, make a breakthrough in aerospace technology, fighter jets, warships, and all of these can make effective progress.

But isn't such a small thing just a chip, so tricky?

Isn't it because there are too many restrictions?

There is no way around it.

In any country, if a certain technology lacks too much and has too many restrictions, then they are the same, and it is difficult to make any major breakthroughs in this field.

"So Xiao Luo, look at this high-purity crystalline silicon wafer."

Long Jianfei looked at Luo Feng at the moment, it seemed that the other party was thinking about the problem, and in order to warm up the scene, he also mentioned it slightly.

"Of course I can solve this thing!"

Luo Feng had been reminiscing just now, recalling what the robot of the Tianyuan Planet had said, and whether there was such a thing.

But come to think of it, there should be relevant technology.

In this case, Luo Feng must have agreed.

"Huh?"

Hearing this, Ji Shunqing's eyes were a little straight, what are you kidding? Can this be solved too? It's unlikely, right?

Then, in Ji Shunqing's eyes, he was not surprised, but a little angry.

After all, for a professional like them, he understands better that these things are impossible.

If you talk about it to those outsiders, you may still be able to fool you.

At this moment, Ji Shunqing even suspected that the little young man in front of him was deliberately drawing a big cake and then fooling people, right?

"Hehe, Mr. Ji, let's just say it, I can handle the instrument, and the production process, I can also handle it, but I'm worried that after I bring things back, then it will cause the consequences that we will no longer study this thing!"

When Luo Feng saw this little doctor, he seemed to be a little angry, and he didn't believe his expression, so he immediately said it very seriously.

Luo Feng's eyes were blazing at this moment, and he said categorically: "If everyone slacks off at that time, or even reverses, I might as well not do such a thing!" ”

This remark directly made Ji Shunqing stunned, opened his mouth, and did not speak, but after thinking about it, he organized the language for a while, and then said: "Mr. Luo, under the premise that you said this, can you really get these things?" ”

"Of course you can!" Luo Feng nodded without hesitation.

"Old Dragon." Seeing this, Ji Shunqing didn't know what to say, so he couldn't take it at all, just looked at Long Jianfei.

"Shunqing, you don't know much about Xiao Luo, if he says he can do it, I think you can completely trust Xiao Luo!"

Long Jianfei smiled and said the mantra he always talked about.

If we say, in the past, the gold content is not so great.

But now, the gold content or trustworthiness of this sentence is very high.

Before and after, Luo Feng did many incredible things.

Those precious metal materials at the beginning, indeed, if it were related, could still be done.

But then the Raptor, the Ohio nuclear submarine, the desalination project?

These things, one by one, are not unimaginable to experts, but they are customer service by Luo Feng and his team.

Therefore, this sentence, you can always imagine that Xiao Luo has always been on Long Jianfei's lips, and it seems to have become Long Jianfei's first evaluation of Luo Feng.

"Yes, Mr. Ji, our Mr. Luo, only you can't think of it, you can't do it without you!" Seeing this, Zheng Zeyao couldn't help but say a word, Zheng Zeyao was in the middle of many things, and he knew a lot of things.

"This."

At this moment, Ji Shunqing looked at Long Jianfei's affirmative and serious tone, and began to hesitate, whether to believe the other party or not.

Ji Shunqing began to look Luo Feng up and down, and found that the other party's eyes were full of perseverance and confidence, and there was no intention of lying at all.

"Mr. Luo Feng, please forgive me for not believing you, but I want to ask, if these things can be solved, then can you solve the patent problem?"

Ji Shunqing said solemnly.

Yes, patents, this thing, it's so important.

And speaking of this patent, it is also where Luo Feng is more confused and helpless.

He was indeed able to get the machine, but after getting these instruments, how to produce them, then the next thing is to face the problem of patents.

How to solve this problem, in fact, Luo Feng really can't help it.

Don't look at these two words, just two words, it doesn't involve physical objects, not raw materials, and not equipment.

But he is like a barrier to the forefront of the world's chip technology, firmly blocking the front.

Patents are a terrible thing.

If you don't have a patent, you can't do a lot of things.

"Mr. Luo, you may not know, even if you have the required instruments, but you don't have the instruments that can be produced, and when it comes to the patent of the process, we can't get around it."

"So, we can't help it?" Luo Feng frowned fiercely and asked.

"Mr. Luo, in fact, I understand why you ask so much." Ji Shunqing said and sighed, "What do you mean, are you worried that if many things are not done perfectly, we will fall into the dilemma of buying again?" ”

"yes!" Luo Feng nodded, this thing not only involves equipment, raw materials, but also patents, if it is not done well, then the cost will go up, it is really better to buy it.

It's cheaper for people to build it, but it's so expensive for you to build it.

It's really better to buy it.

"Actually, it's not impossible, but this way, you have to get a set of equipment!" Ji Shunqing saw that Luo Feng's eyes were a little unwilling, and he also thought of something, so he said something.

"Got a set of equipment?"

"Yes, if you can provide a set of equipment, then we can disassemble the research, which will greatly reduce our research and development time."

Ji Shunqing just said it casually, he still didn't believe that Luo Feng had such an ability.

But then again, if you really get it, and you develop and crack it, when the time comes, these patents will be your own.

No more being limited by others.

"I mean, I don't mind providing machines, I'm worried that you've been researching for too long to alleviate the current difficult situation as soon as possible!" Luo Feng smiled bitterly.

In today's world, the price of chips, especially high-level chips, has always been the norm of skyrocketing.

Even if Ji Shunqing and others get the actual samples, and even the full set of production processes, they still have to research it themselves and obtain this patent, and no one can guarantee how much time will be lost in this time.

Seeing this, Ji Shunqing thought for a while, and then said on a whim: "Of course, if Mr. Luo, you can provide the equipment at the same time, and then get a chip overseas?" So."

"Chips? Pure chips? Finished product? ”

"Yes!" Ji Shunqing nodded.

"There's nothing wrong with that!" Luo Feng also nodded one after another.

"Huh?" Ji Shunqing was a little surprised, and then Ling Ran said, "If you can provide chips, then these channels are probably not normal channels, right?" ”

"Of course!" Luo Feng nodded again.

"If you set up a few leather bag companies, get chips, sell them to China, they will soon find you trouble, when the time comes, a company goes bankrupt, you can only change one company, and the company goes out of business again, then change the company again! But you've brought it up, and I think you should be okay with these things, right? Ji Shunqing said helplessly, this is something for Luo Feng to consider.

"Huh!"

Seeing this, Luo Feng's face became slightly weird.

When I saw Ji Shunqing just now, I still felt that the book business was angry, but now it seems that why is the thick eyebrows and big eyes so damaged?

The first half of this sentence is indeed fine, this is a reminder to Luo Feng of what will happen in the future.

But the last sentence is equivalent to blocking Luo Feng.

It means that Luo Feng will continue to change companies, after all, he is also serving the country.

Of course, if you want to talk about his careful thinking, he is actually not selfish.

Because of the chip technology, the breakthrough, in addition to fame, how much benefit can they have? Even in order to keep certain things secret, their names will not be known.

In this way, it is just that considering the limited domestic chip technology, I want to develop it quickly.

"It's a real idea, why don't you use it?" Luo Feng smiled, but he asked, you go to such a company yourself, and then go to buy chips, if you are accused, you will change it.

"Even if the method is good, but there is not enough chip production capacity, this is a fact. And all the manufacturers that have the ability to produce high-end chips, just those, it is too inconvenient to monitor! Therefore, our difficulty is not that we can't think of a way, but that we can't implement it. ”

Ji Shunqing spread his hands helplessly.

Just like the case of chips, it is clear that it has the ability to design a 3nm chip, but because the production process is not up to par, it cannot be made.

Not to mention the 3nm level, even if it is the 7nm level, it still can't be made.

As for the top chip factories overseas with this strength, they dare not take the job.

Luo Feng also began to think quickly in his mind at this moment, and after a pause, he looked at Long Jianfei, "Long Lao, I want to find so many people to start a trading company overseas, what do you think?" ”

Long Jianfei also knew what Luo Feng meant, nodded, and said, "No problem!" ”

The two sides did not discuss in detail how to start doing this matter, and ended the topic very tacitly.

After Luo Feng left, Ji Shunqing asked, "Old Long, who is this Mr. Luo?" Can you, who are so respected, and him, really do what he said? ”

Long Jianfei smiled, stood up, and patted the other party's shoulder, "Shunqing, have you forgotten what I told?" As I said, you can always trust Xiao Luo. ”

Ji Shunqing smiled bitterly, and did not continue to insist on the question just now, but said, "But, Long Lao, the world's high-end chip manufacturing has long been saturated, where can he find production capacity?" ”

"Hehe, that's all his business, since he can agree, I think it's all right!" Long Jianfei thought about it and said slowly.

Where to find capacity?

This is indeed a big problem.

But no matter how big the problem is, almost when facing this little guy, it is not a problem.

Previous raptors? There are so many things, not all of them are out.

When they saw those things, everyone thought it was impossible at first, but in the end, they didn't silently admit it, and silently admitted the fact that it was impossible in front of them.

(End of chapter)