Chapter 676 Industrial Software is an Industrial Product, Not an IT Product

As the saying goes, good things don't go out, but bad things spread thousands of miles.

Nanshan Group lost more than 10 million yuan to Dassault Huaxia, and many people in the industry still know about it.

After all, there are quite a few companies that use CATIA in Huaxia.

The major car companies, one counts as one, and almost all of them are in use.

OEMs are using it, and parts suppliers are naturally using it.

And pirated software is definitely not used by Nanshan Group.

Many parts suppliers may only buy one set of genuine copies, and the rest are pirated copies.

Since the volume of these manufacturers is not very large, Dassault Huaxia is too lazy to go to lawsuits one by one.

After all, mosquito meat has to be raised to be delicious.

"Mr. Cao, I heard that you are going to make your own CAD software?"

Wang Fu and Cao Yang are very familiar.

BYD Auto uses the design software CATIA to have CATIA, and now Nanshan Group has suffered a loss, and he also quickly arranged for someone to take stock within the company.

See if you're using pirated software.

Then I was very curious to call Cao Yang, wanting to know whether Nanshan Group was serious about engaging in CAD software or scaring Dassault.

"There is indeed this arrangement, in the past two days, I have asked people to take stock of the various industrial software used by Nanshan Group, and one is counted as one, all of which are developed by foreign software companies."

"Although this is a common situation in the domestic automotive industry, I don't think it's a long-term solution."

"Now our main market is in China, and even if those auto giants face our competition, they can generally only compete normally."

"But in the future, when we continue to expand the export of automobiles, the situation will be different when we conquer cities around the world."

"Maybe people will use industrial software to get you stuck."

All self-owned brand automobile companies are potential customers of Yangcheng Zhongwang in the future.

Although it was still a bit early, Cao Yang didn't mind instilling a sense of crisis in them first.

When the time comes, after the company's own CAD software comes out, it will not be so difficult to sell.

"That's the truth, but it's too difficult to develop industrial software."

Wang Fu sighed.

As a boss born in R&D, how could he not know about the situation of industrial software?

Even in the process of battery development, a lot of the software used is foreign.

The more subdivided the field, the more obvious this situation is likely to be.

"It's a little harder, but the threshold for industrial software is not as high as everyone thinks."

"It's just a matter of whether the input and output are proportional."

"Our Nanshan Group has made some money in the past few years, even if it is a loss, I can't let those software manufacturers get stuck with us."

In the future, the Nanshan Group will have more and more layout in the military industry, and many things produced will be more sensitive.

So the possibility of further sanctions at that time is very high.

Self-owned brand car companies such as BYD and Chery can not engage in industrial software, but Nanshan Group cannot.

Otherwise, when the time comes, a huge amount of money will be spent on chips, 100% localization of equipment and raw materials, but in the end, it will be stuck in industrial software.

That's disgusting.

In order for Nanshan Group's investment in semiconductors and other fields to have a greater effect, the development of supporting industrial software is very necessary.

In the beginning, everyone must have had a lot of worries.

As long as Nanshan Group can come up with a successful case, it will be easier to find cooperation personnel when developing other industrial software in the future.

For example, in the future, Huawei will definitely be interested in developing software for designing chips.

"Mr. Cao, as long as the software developed by Nanshan Group can be used to design cars and parts, BYD will be your supporter in the future."

"Dassault's companies are lying down and making money every year, which is a bit excessive."

Large software companies don't have much room for negotiation on many of their conditions.

If you want it, if you don't want it, you don't want it.

Anyway, people know you can't live without him.

If you have the ability to use piracy, people will be happier to sue you.

By the way, you can also play a wave of advertising.

"Then I'll thank Mr. Wang for your support first."

"Engaging in industrial software, Nanshan Group is absolutely serious."

"When the time comes, we will definitely give everyone a satisfactory result."

Regarding Wang Fu's overtures, Cao Yang naturally accepted all the orders.

And after hanging up Wang Fu's phone, it didn't take long for Xiang Changle's phone to come in.

"Ayang, I heard that you have acquired Yangcheng Zhongwang and want to engage in the development of CAD software?"

As the vice president of Lingnan University of Science and Technology and the former dean of the School of Automotive, Xiang Changle naturally knows the situation of CAD\CAE software very well.

It was precisely because of his understanding that when he heard the news, his feelings were very complicated.

On the one hand, he didn't want to see his students fall into the pit.

On the other hand, he is a little looking forward to Nanshan Group can really make some breakthroughs in CAD software.

This is really important for the industrial development of China.

"There is indeed such a thing, Dassault came to us some time ago to blackmail more than 10 million."

"There is no way, we can only pay obediently, otherwise the use of other genuine software is estimated to be affected."

"I have made a preliminary estimate that with the development and growth of Nanshan Group, we will need to pay more than one billion or even billions of yuan of CATIA purchase funds and use funds to Dassault Group in the next ten years."

"If you have the money to buy software, you might as well use it for software development."

In front of Xiang Changle, there is nothing bad to say.

There are times when Nanshan Group is blackmailed, which can be regarded as giving everyone a relatively strong vigilance.

Some foreign software companies specifically need to find large companies to "crack down on counterfeiting".

Large companies often win for the sake of their reputations.

Even Microsoft does just that.

"Ayang, large-scale CAD software like CATIA, not to mention billions, even billions may not be able to be successfully developed."

"Even if it is developed, it may not be able to be used, and nine times out of ten, no one CATIA is easy to use."

"And when the time comes for your software to be sold to customers, Dassault can completely readjust the price of CATIA and sell it at a price that is the same as yours or even cheaper than you."

"In this way, people's performance is better than yours, the popularity is higher than yours, and the price is cheaper than yours, how can you compete?"

Some of Xiang Changle's college friends are engaged in software development.

There is even one who is an academician-level figure.

Therefore, he is relatively clear about the practices of foreign software manufacturers.

To put it bluntly, people just want to curb your development.

A similar situation exists not only in the software sector, but in many areas.

When you can't, try desperately to hack you.

When you can, people are desperate to suppress you.

Anyway, I just don't want you to break their monopoly, and I don't want you to affect their money.

"For other companies, if they develop industrial software, they will indeed encounter this kind of problem, and it is difficult to solve this problem."

"But for Nanshan Group, this problem is not so serious."

"Relying on our own companies alone, the usage is already very high."

"The savings every year are not small."

"As long as you stay up for a few years, there will be fewer bugs in all aspects of the software, and it will be easier to use, and then it will be promoted to other enterprises."

"It's a big deal, I'll just give it to others for free for a few years, and then I'll charge for it after killing competitors."

When Microsoft's operating system entered China, it can be said that piracy developed for several years.

After cultivating enough users, it is much easier to do it by charging fees.

The industrial software developed by Nanshan Group may not be as easy to use as CATIA, but if it is free for you to use the genuine software for a few years, it is still attractive to some companies.

Especially those suppliers of Nanshan Group, there will definitely be many people who use them.

At the same time, it is entirely possible to promote the popularization of the industry with the help of the power of the ministry.

Basically, as long as Cao Yang doesn't care much about making money, it is entirely possible for Nanshan Group to succeed in industrial software.

In the future, after complete success, it will not be a problem to talk about earning money, or going abroad to earn money.

"You can do that, but it's a lot of investment in the early days."

"But it may take 10 years to recoup the investment."

"If these funds are invested in other areas, the estimated return rate will be much higher."

Xiang Changle listened to Cao Yang's words, and slowly knew in his heart.

This matter seems to be really troublesome.

After all, Nanshan Group is special.

With capital, technology, and courage, the threshold for industrial software is actually not so high.

However, Xiang Changle's ability to change his views so quickly does not mean that others are the same.

For example, the person in charge of Dassault Huaxia has a completely different view.

"Leo, I inquired, Nanshan Group is indeed developing its own CAD software, and for this purpose, it has also acquired Yangcheng Zhongwang, which is quite famous in China."

"Today, the entire development team has thousands of people."

"Looks like they're serious."

Shangguan Jin is the sales director of Dassault Huaxia, and he cooperated with the legal department to make a claim against Nanshan Group for piracy.

Judging from past experience, these companies are generally more honest after being tossed.

Basically, no matter what the cost is, Dassault's side will accept the offer.

But this time, the reaction of the Nanshan Group made Shangguan Jin realize that something was wrong.

But he was worried, and Leo was different.

"Shangguan, you should know very well that industrial software is an industrial product, not an IT product."

"I admit that China's IT industry has developed rapidly in recent years, and it has already gained some reputation around the world."

"However, no matter how developed the IT industry is, it does not mean that qualified CAD software can be developed."

"Especially if it's still a CAD software comparable to our CATIA, it's more like a fool's dream."

Leo was full of confidence, and he was not at all worried about what threat Nanshan Group would pose to Dassault.

In his opinion, the whole of China, and even the whole world, except for the software such as UG, which has become famous, has no way to bring any threat to CATIA.

The first-mover advantage is not something you can crack with hard work at all.

"If it were an ordinary Chinese enterprise to engage in CAD software, I would definitely not have any worries."

"However, Nanshan Group is a little different, and their strength in all aspects is very different from other companies."

"I'm worried that they will actually be able to develop a CAD software by then."

Shangguan Jin is still quite responsible.

If you get Dassault's salary, you have to think about Dassault.

"What if it's developed?"

"I've already said that industrial software is an industrial product, not an IT product."

"Even if Nanshan Group has developed a software, but without a large amount of user data accumulation and a large amount of error-proofing information in the past, that software is not practical at all."

"Let's say you design a part and it looks like there's no problem."

"But after the production was completed, I found out that there were such and such problems, and the reason was that the software did not think about the processing of some data."

"So if you were a user, what would you think of software like this?"

"It is estimated that it is good that Nanshan Group does not launch its products, and after it is launched, it will completely ruin its reputation."

Leo's statement should represent the views of many people.

After all, industrial software does have a variety of thresholds.

A lot of things can't be solved by relying on program apes.

Obviously, the IT industry in Germany and France is not developed, but the industrial software of others is doing very well.

It is because industrial software has little to do with the level of the IT industry.

On the contrary, it has a lot to do with your industrial technology accumulation.

Huaxia's accumulation in this area is definitely inferior to others.

If you want to overtake in corners, it's obviously not that easy.

"Then we don't care about him and let Nanshan Group develop on its own?"

Although he was still a little worried in his heart, but the boss said so, Shangguan Jin didn't insist anymore.

"Don't worry about it, but if our technicians want to jump to Nanshan Group, then we must find a way to make a little trip."

"All technical personnel who are exposed to software development need to sign a non-compete agreement."

Leo was not worried about Nanshan Group coming up with qualified CAD software at all, because he felt that it was impossible.

But if the Nanshan Group wants to copy CADIA, he is a little worried.

So simply arrange someone to go to each technical person to sign a non-compete agreement.

Although this arrangement will have a slight impact on the development of Yangcheng Zhongwang, the impact is relatively limited.

After all, developing such a large CAD software is not something that a few people can do.

In the final analysis, Yangcheng Zhongwang needs to have its own structure and its own ideas to develop.

Otherwise, there would be no way to make a good software.

……

Li Yuxuan and Chen Zitong are fourth-year students in the Department of Mathematics at ECNU.

As an undergraduate student in this major, the main direction of employment is to go to school as a middle school teacher.

If you don't want to get a job, then go on to graduate school.

There are very few other ways out.

After all, ECNU is not like a very famous university with mathematics departments such as Imperial Capital University, Nanjing University, and Fu University, and those graduates can also go abroad, go to financial institutions and other places.

In 2011, being a teacher was not so hot.

Therefore, Li Yuxuan and Chen Zitong, who had the opportunity to study in Baoyan, both chose Baoyan to see if they could continue their studies and work in school.

Compared to going to primary or secondary school to become a math teacher, staying at ECNU is definitely a better choice.

However, Nanshan Group suddenly arranged people to recruit them professionally.

Nanshan Group!

There is no one who goes to university in Yangcheng who does not want to enter this company.

Li Yuxuan and Chen Zitong are naturally no exception.

It's just that they were directly eliminated in the resume screening stage before.

Not to mention the written exams and interviews.

Now HR suddenly came to them and told them that as long as they can graduate from the Department of Mathematics of Yangcheng Normal University, they can join Nanshan Group this year.

This message immediately felt like dropping a bomb on a calm lake.

Several people who have signed up to become teachers have begun to consult about the breach of contract.

"Yuxuan, I want to give up Baoyan and go directly to work in Nanshan Group!"

After a night of thinking, Chen Zitong made a decision the next day.

Compared with the result that she may not be able to stay in school after graduate school, she feels that the opportunity to enter Nanshan Group cannot be missed.

Under normal circumstances, it is difficult for her to enter the Nanshan Group even after graduating from graduate school.

Now, because Nanshan Group is preparing to recruit a group of personnel from the Department of Mathematics to develop software in the subordinate Yangcheng Zhongwang, many graduates of the Department of Mathematics of colleges and universities have ushered in spring.

The Department of Mathematics will be able to open up one day to join the Nanshan Group.

This is something that no one dared to think of before.

"I'm about to tell you, I've just called HR back, and I can sign a tripartite agreement this afternoon."

Li Yuxuan's thoughts are actually similar to Chen Zitong's.

Reading to the end is nothing more than to find a suitable job.

Nanshan Group is well treated and promising, which is well-known in Yangcheng.

"I heard that after I went in, I was in charge of assisting in the development of industrial software, aren't you worried that you won't know anything after you go in?"

Chen Zitong expressed his worries.

The HR of Nanshan Group made it very clear that they would train in the headquarters for one year after they entered, and then they would be arranged to be responsible for the development of industrial software in Yangcheng Zhongwang.

In this process, everyone needs to go to Yangcheng Auto Parts, Xingchen Automobile and other companies for job rotation, and even need to specialize in C++ and C language training and learning.

It can be said that this process is destined to be relatively hard.

Whether he can do this job is one thing that Chen Zitong is more worried about.

If you fail to pass the training after one year and get fired, it will be embarrassing.

"What is the level of our undergraduates, the personnel department of Nanshan Group is very clear."

"In this case, they are willing to recruit us, so it means that there is no need to worry about not being able to do the job."

When Li Yuxuan said this, Chen Zitong thought about it and felt that it made sense.

As far as the reputation of Nanshan Group is concerned, there is no need for them to do anything that damages their image.

So as long as you're not rotten, it's impossible to be fired after a year of training.

As a person who can protect the research, Chen Zitong doesn't think that he will be rotten.

After figuring this out, her determination to join the Nanshan Group became even stronger.

Let the opportunity of Baoyan be given to others.

Go straight to work and earn money by yourself!

Maybe I have learned countless times more things in the three years of working in Nanshan Group than I have learned in graduate school.

Those who will study in graduate school in the future will have to worry about finding a job, and they are already getting a high salary in Nanshan Group.

The Department of Engineering Mechanics has a similar treatment along with the Department of Mathematics.

This major is not available in every school, and the curriculum is relatively rough.

Even if you don't study hard, you'll really keep failing.

And if you didn't get a Ph.D. in this major, it would not be easy for you to find a job.

Of course, if you have a PhD, it is not a problem to find a job.

Industrial software requires a lot of mathematics and mechanics talents, so as long as it is a good school, the people in these two majors are almost exhausted by Nanshan Group.

In the past, the employment situation of unpopular majors was even better than that of popular IT and finance.

This is definitely a refresh for many people's cognition.

"Mr. Cao, we have preliminarily formulated two R&D directions, one is to benchmark CATIA's CAD software, and the other is to benchmark ANSYS' CAE software,"

"At present, on the one hand, we are asking the personnel department to help poach people in software companies at home and abroad, and at the same time, we are also in contact with domestic scientific research institutes."

"At that time, we will equip these professionals recruited by the society with at least four fresh graduates as apprentices."

"We have recruited more than 2,000 new graduates from the Department of Mathematics, the Department of Mechanics, and Software Engineering."

Du Yulin is the founder of Yangcheng Zhongwang, and after the company was acquired, it stands to reason that he has achieved financial freedom.

However, after a brief chat with Cao Yang, he decided to continue to serve as the general manager of Yangcheng Zhongwang, and lead a new team to challenge the development of difficult CAD and CAE software.

Although he has been in business for more than ten years, there is still a big gap between Yangcheng Zhongwang and the international industrial software giant.

He also has a very clear understanding of this.

Now after the company is acquired by Nanshan Group, there is no shortage of people and money.

People who couldn't dig up before can now dig up.

The crowd tactics that were unaffordable in the past can now be used in a big way.

This gives him confidence in the future.

"The development of industrial software is highly dependent on industrial development technology and iterative accumulation of experience, and there is no shortcut."

"ZW's experience has accumulated so many years, and I hope that Mr. Du will bring ZW's presence comparable to companies such as Dassault and Adobe."

"The company's R&D budget is not capped!"

Cao Yang is a little glad that there are still companies engaged in industrial software in China.

Although the scale is not particularly large, and the achievements are not particularly outstanding, there is at least a group of people who are familiar with the industry.

This allows Nanshan Group to save a lot of time in industrial software development.

Otherwise, if you have money, you don't know how to smash it.

It's like when a car company made a car, the executives were a bunch of laymen, and they knew "buy, buy, buy, be good", but they burned so much money and didn't see anything famous.

Cao Yang naturally doesn't want his industrial software to burn money and produce no results.

"Mr. Cao, users play a very key role in the development of industrial software, one of the important reasons for the slow development of industrial software in China in the past is that we have not obtained enough user scenarios, so users need to sincerely support domestic industrial software and give enterprises more opportunities to open up scenarios."

"In this development process, we need users to give us some suggestions, otherwise there will be no way to make real software that can be used."

Du Yulin felt that Cao Yang attached great importance to industrial software.

So naturally, I want to take this opportunity to make more requests.

Otherwise, there are so many things in Nanshan Group, and Cao Yang's attention will be diverted by other things in a few days, and if Du Yulin wants to make any suggestions at that time, the difficulty will be completely different.

It may not even be possible to see Cao Yang at any time so easily.

"I asked Mr. Rao and Mr. Dai to arrange people to directly connect with you, and let them set up an industrial software testing team within each company to cooperate with your development!"

For a reasonable request, Cao Yang naturally agreed without any hesitation.

(End of chapter)