Chapter 735 It's not that Hearst can't afford it, but Nanshan carbon fiber is more cost-effective
Boeing and Northrop Grumman moved fast.
Since they have chosen to contact Nanshan carbon fiber, it means that they are really worried that they will continue to use Nanshan carbon fiber, and their own products will lag behind the world in the application of carbon fiber composite materials.
Chinese manufacturers are using it, European manufacturers are using it, and even the polar bear, a competitor, is also using it.
If they are not used, they will spend more money to buy Hatch's carbon fiber, and the performance will not be as good as Nanshan carbon fiber products.
That's embarrassing.
"Mr. Chen, the sanctions imposed by the United States on Nanshan Carbon Fiber are equivalent to dying in name."
"Boeing and other companies have officially signed contracts with Nanshan Carbon Fiber to purchase a batch of carbon fiber composite materials."
"Now it seems that the successful research and development of Nanshan carbon fiber T1200 has played a great role in stimulating it."
As the head of the sales department of Guangwei Group, Chen Qingxiang is very familiar with the situation of the carbon fiber industry.
Guangwei Group was born as a fishing gear, and only began to enter the field of carbon fiber a few years ago.
After cooperating with Nanshan Carbon Fiber, the development entered the fast lane.
However, Guangwei Group mainly does T300 and T400 carbon fiber, and the more high-end T700 and T800, which only Nanshan carbon fiber can produce in Huaxia.
As for the T1100 and T1200, that's even more needless to say.
"The T1200 has been made, it's really amazing."
"When Nanshan Carbon Fiber took the lead in developing T1100 carbon fiber, international giants such as Toray and Hearst were estimated to be skeptical and felt unlikely."
"But the latter has proven that facts speak louder than words."
"So now when Nanshan Carbon Fiber once again took the lead in developing the T1200, it is estimated that everyone quickly chose to believe it."
Chen Liang is also very familiar with the situation of Nanshan carbon fiber.
When Guangwei Group produced fishing rods and other fishing gear, it needed to buy carbon fiber raw materials from companies such as Toray at a high price.
And even if you have the money, you can't buy other people's highest-end products.
That grievance......
Guangwei Group will start producing carbon fiber because it doesn't want to live such a humiliating life.
Later, relying on Guangwei Group's own research and development and the sudden rise of Nanshan carbon fiber, it finally rewrote the history of Huaxia's carbon fiber industry.
Nowadays, as long as it comes to carbon fiber materials, there is no way to avoid Huaxia.
Because the carbon fiber production capacity of Guangwei Group and Nanshan Carbon Fiber accounts for 60% of the global production capacity.
And the proportion is rising.
It is estimated that in another five years, 80% of the world's carbon fiber will be produced in China.
With technical advantages and cost advantages, Huaxia's carbon fiber materials can definitely throw away the armor of international giants.
"Yes, the emergence of T1200 carbon fiber and the mass production and application of T1100 carbon fiber composite materials should give Boeing a big stimulus."
"They have always relied on Hatch, and they can still maintain a technical advantage in products within the T800, but they are already significantly behind in the T1100."
"Even if they can quickly develop products similar to T1100 carbon fiber composite materials, it is estimated that the market will also be occupied by Nanshan carbon fiber."
Chen Qingshen knew too well what the purchasing staff of those giants were thinking.
When it doesn't involve core interests, it's easy to say anything.
It's not the same thing when there is a huge difference in people's thinking.
Hearst has a long history of cooperation with companies such as Boeing.
But once Hearst fell behind, Boeing would not frown if he abandoned Hearst.
Anyone who engages in procurement knows very well that there are two main procurement models in this world.
One is that Dongying and Gaoli take the model of common development with suppliers, and the relationship between Party A and Party B is more about cooperation and common development.
Even if Party B is lagging behind, Party A will try its best to take it with him.
Of course, many of this kind of Party B have some shares of Party A, or are inextricably linked.
The other model is the competition model of European and American enterprises.
When you have an advantage in something, I will give you the order.
Once there is a more advantageous manufacturer, then they will immediately abandon you.
It's hard to completely say which one is better and which one is worse either.
It can only be said that each has its own advantages and disadvantages, and what suits you is the best.
"Since Nanshan carbon fiber's current products have been able to be exported to the United States, this means that the relevant sanctions have existed in name only, and the demand in the international market will soon explode."
"At that time, their production capacity may be insufficient, and there will definitely be more manufacturers looking for us to buy carbon fiber materials."
"It seems that the company also needs to think about the construction of the new factory in advance."
Chen Liang started by producing fishing rods, and now Guangwei Group is completely bigger.
With the help of Nanshan Carbon Fiber, Guangwei Group has the production capacity of T300 and T400 carbon fiber.
And Chen Liang did not stop there, he personally led the R&D team, and he was about to conquer the technology of T700 carbon fiber.
Although this will form a certain competitive relationship with Nanshan carbon fiber, everyone's product positioning is different, in fact, the competitive relationship is not so strong.
Just like Geely and Chery also produce various models, Xingchen Automobile also produces.
But it's hard to say what kind of competition there is between them.
The same goes for Guangwei Group and Nanshan Carbon Fiber.
One is to make low-end products, and the other is to make high-end products.
Even if it is the same T700 carbon fiber, there is a certain difference in performance.
Just like some Western medicines in later generations, with the same chemical composition, imported ones are much more expensive than domestic ones.
And objectively speaking, sometimes the efficacy of imported drugs is indeed better.
Because the purity of other people's medicines and other aspects of performance are better, the final effect will be different.
The situation is similar for Nanshan carbon fiber products.
When Boeing and other American companies began to purchase Nanshan carbon fiber products, other companies that originally had some concerns in their hearts were naturally even less entangled.
"Ebat, are you sure that the price of buying T800 carbon fiber from Nanshan Carbon Fiber is 30% cheaper than buying it from Hearst in the United States?"
Porsche President Makht is also under pressure right now.
Since the outbreak of the financial crisis, the situation in Europe has not fully recovered.
Therefore, the sales of related sports cars and other models have limited growth.
However, the company's costs have not decreased much.
In order to make the financial report look better, he also hopes that the company can do some cost reduction in procurement.
As a result, the pressure on Ibat, the purchasing director, is great.
"Yes, this price has been confirmed again and again, and there is no problem."
"And we have also confirmed with the technical department that the material quality of Nanshan carbon fiber is fully in line with the requirements of our drawings."
"Even the spoilers of some of our previous models were actually produced using Nanshan carbon fiber materials and exported through its sister company Nanshan Auto Parts."
"I've heard that Ferrari actually has a similar situation on the other side, so the quality of Nanshan carbon fiber is not to be worried."
Ibart is now unable to protect himself, and he will definitely not take care of Hirsch in the United States.
Previously, half of Porsche's carbon fibre material was made from American Hearst.
Now the situation has changed.
It's not that Hearst can't afford it, but Nanshan carbon fiber is more cost-effective.
Even American giants such as Airbus and Northrop Grumman have turned to Nanshan Carbon Fiber to buy materials.
They are a German car company, so why should they insist on supporting Hatch?
"In this case, let's switch half of the carbon fiber raw materials to Nanshan Carbon Fiber first."
"However, when trading with them, some information about the new model should be kept confidential."
"After all, their sister company, Xingchen Automobile, is our direct competitor."
Makht made this decision, apparently without any concerns.
There will definitely be a certain amount of risk in buying things from competitors' affiliates.
"We are simply looking for them to order raw materials, and the other party does not know which parts and models the materials are used for."
"So there's basically no need to worry about the risk of information leakage."
At this point, Ibatt must let the boss let go of his worries.
For sports cars, the proportion of carbon fiber raw materials is still relatively large.
After all, there are a large number of parts on it that are produced using carbon fiber.
Even Porsche has its own company that produces carbon fiber parts.
Some of the larger parts are produced in-house, and the smaller ones are purchased from suppliers.
This is a bit similar to the pattern of four doors and two covers.
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With Nanshan Carbon Fiber exporting the most advanced carbon fiber materials to various foreign customers, Nanshan Carbon Fiber's own business is thriving.
However, domestic aerospace science and technology and AVIC and other manufacturers will inevitably have a little more worry in their hearts.
"Mr. Zhao, the relevant departments have now allowed Nanshan Carbon Fiber to export all the raw materials it produces."
"As a result, the technical advantages we have accumulated in carbon fiber parts are basically non-existent."
"This is not good for our aerospace products to catch up with or even surpass the world level."
"Let's communicate with Nanshan Carbon Fiber to see if we can make some distinction between the materials supplied to China and those exported."
"The most advanced materials are still to be supplied to us first."
"Only when there is a surplus of production capacity and we don't need so much will we export."
Qian Junfeng, as the general manager of Aerospace Science and Technology, has so many companies under the group that use Nanshan carbon fiber materials.
He's kind of heartbroken.
In the past, the T700 and T800 of the country were bought in the international market by various means, and the key was often not available.
This is certainly very detrimental to the research and development of rockets and satellites.
The cost of aviation launch is high.
If you can do the same thing with less weight, you can save more on launch costs.
Therefore, on various satellites, a large number of carbon fiber materials will be used to reduce weight.
For example, a reconnaissance satellite developed and launched by the complex development and launch of aerospace science and technology this year uses Nanshan carbon fiber T1100 composite material, and its performance has been greatly improved.
"Nanshan Carbon Fiber has finally broken the blockade of the United States, is it a bit inappropriate for us to go to them at this time?"
Zhao Tianling, as the CEO of AVIC, considers things a little differently.
In fact, the gap between the domestic aerospace industry and foreign countries is greater than that of the aviation industry.
For Zhao Tianling, what is most needed now is a breakthrough in aero-engine and radar-related technologies.
At present, even if Nanshan Carbon Fiber supplies all the most advanced carbon fiber materials to AVIC, there is no way to ensure that the aircraft produced is the most advanced in the world.
Of course, it also knows that even if Boeing companies buy materials from Nanshan Carbon Fiber, they will not easily use them in their most advanced military aircraft.
Therefore, the impact of carbon fiber exports on AVIC is relatively limited.
"Cao is always a reasonable and sensible person."
"It's not that we don't let him export, but we just hope that Nanshan Carbon Fiber will give priority to supplying us with advanced materials."
As soon as Qian Junfeng finished speaking, Zhao Tianling said: "If it's just this request, I don't think there is any need to find Cao Yang, Nanshan Carbon Fiber must have no opinion." ”
"They must have this realization."
Hearing Zhao Tianling say this, Qian Junfeng said a little twisted: "This is not the price of export and the price of domestic procurement is different, when the price is higher, the idea of Nanshan carbon fiber may be different." ”
At this time, Zhao Tianling understood Qian Junfeng's thoughts.
I want to prioritize the use of advanced materials and don't want to spend more money.
However, Qian Junfeng is dedicated to the public after all, and Zhao Tianling doesn't have much to say.
After all, if this matter can really be smoothed, it will also be beneficial to AVIC.
"The relevant departments have liaison representatives on the Nanshan Carbon Fiber side, and I think this kind of thing just needs to let them come forward."
"It's not good for us to jump out directly."
As soon as Zhao Tianling said this, Qian Junfeng thought about it, and it seemed to make sense.
In the end, I put out the thought of calling Cao Yang directly.
However, when their ideas were conveyed to Zeng Jianying and Cao Yang through Pan Jun, Cao Yang had no opinion.
He wants to make exports, not really to go to the enemy.
It is to enhance the status of Huaxia's carbon fiber industry in the world, and ultimately grasp the pricing power of carbon fiber materials.
Looking at all the materials, there are few materials that have the pricing power in the hands of Huaxia.
Cao Yang very much hopes to change this situation.
The field of carbon fiber is an industry that he can now exert his strength.
If Toray and Hatch can eat up more than half of the market share, then Nanshan Carbon Fiber will have no rivals in the world.
When the time comes, with Guangwei Group and other enterprises, we will work together to formulate a price rule for carbon fiber materials, so that it will be much easier to make money.
After all, first-class enterprises are standard.
Cao Yang definitely wants his company to be a first-class company.
(End of chapter)