Chapter 673: Dream Group, Something Isn't Quite Right
Li Jie, who had finally completed his tactics and drank water, poured himself and Chang Haonan a full cup again, and then hesitated for a moment, showing a look of wanting to say something.
"Mr. Chang, there is one more thing ......"
Looking at this meaning, it is likely to be followed by a question such as "I don't know whether to talk about it or not".
However, considering that both of them are from technical backgrounds, the whole set is really a bit redundant, so he finally said directly:
"I would venture to ask, what is the relationship between your company and Dream Group...... Do you have any business contacts? ”
There seems to be no connection between this question and the topic just now, which made Chang Haonan stunned for a moment:
"When I was collecting, I bought their computer host...... Does it count? ”
It should not be said that in the current year, the accessories in the PC market are basically 100% imported, compared with other brands that have to import the whole machine from abroad, Dream Group can at least leave the assembly process in China to complete, so the public budget procurement has eaten up most of the market.
Therefore, although Chang Haonan didn't want to see each other in his heart, he didn't have a choice.
Moreover, from this point of view, Dream Group made a little contribution to Huaxia's electronic information industry in the early days.
It's a pity that this is the end of it.
"Of course it's not ......"
Li Jie waved his hand and couldn't help but say:
"This can only be regarded as a normal buying and selling transaction, I mean, a cooperation like our Dawning Group."
Strictly speaking, it is a bit out of bounds for him to ask.
Although the vast majority of cases of a cooperative relationship between enterprises will choose to make it public, it is also a trade secret if it is said to be on the line.
If it is two private companies, it is not a problem for the boss to sit together and chat, and if it is inconvenient to answer, it will be done in a circle.
However, the Torch Group and the Shuguang Group are both second-level state-owned enterprises in the Academy of Sciences system, and they are still completely parallel to each other, and even in business, the former is still more closely related to the Commission of Science and Technology.
So Li Jie was a little hesitant just now.
But Chang Haonan didn't take it seriously.
After all, if you really want to talk about it, he has been targeting the Dream Group in a planned way since two years ago, but he has never told anyone about it.
So he immediately shook his head:
"Naturally, there is no such in-depth cooperation."
"As you know, the Torch Group is not large, and its main business is actually to provide exclusive technical solutions, so the business dealings with us are basically some institutions or companies with R&D capabilities......"
Hearing this, Li Jie finally relaxed.
Immediately, he realized that Chang Haonan had something to say, and he couldn't help but chuckle directly-
Those who have dealings with the Torch Group are all institutions or companies with R&D capabilities.
Isn't this a secret prodding indication that the Dream Group does not have the ability to do this......
After giving an answer, Chang Haonan also asked rhetorically with doubts:
"Why did Academician Li suddenly ask about this?"
The Dream Group is unreliable, and he naturally knows it as a reborn person.
Moreover, the situation that the foreign trade business of Huaxia enterprises, which was originally smooth sailing, was brought into the yellow by internal ghosts and external forces, also happened in the previous life I don't know how many times.
So Chang Haonan still has this vigilance.
But Li Jie shouldn't seem to be so sensitive.
After all, according to the timeline, the dream group of this kung fu should not have become the conscience of US imperialism.
"That's a long story......
Li Jie's expression that was still smiling just now suddenly became serious:
"You should know that in the first two years, the above was originally going to merge the entire computing institute into the Dream Group, so at that time, I was always the deputy director in charge of the work, and the director was always named by the CEO of the Dream Group."
Chang Haonan nodded, but did not answer, just motioned for the other party to continue.
"Later, their ambitions swelled and they wanted to eat together with our Shuguang Group, and they had already obtained 20 million of our shares at the highest time. However, in the end, because of the sudden improvement in the group's revenue in '97, this did not allow the dream group to succeed. ”
Speaking of this, Li Jie also glanced up at Chang Haonan.
After all, that wave was a bit of a sudden supercomputing craze, and it was still stained with the latter.
Although after calming down, everyone successively found that if there was no person like Chang Haonan who presided over the work, the role of a supercomputer alone would be limited, but in any case, Shuguang Group made a lot of money at that time, directly reversing the loss trend of several years before.
More importantly, it injected a wave of confidence into the superiors who were a little wavering about this bottomless pit of funds.
And Chang Haonan can be regarded as understanding:
"So, you, or rather, us, are a good thing for the Dream Group, so Academician Li is worried that they will use some off-the-plate tricks to sabotage?"
"It's not just worrying."
Li Jie said with a solemn face:
"Actually, in business, they want to buy us, we don't want to be acquired, and it's normal for the two sides to have conflicts or business struggles."
"But since last year, when we import computer components, we will obviously be hindered, some are in terms of production capacity, some are in customs clearance documents, and some are reviewed."
"Although so far, there have been no substantive problems, but since Mr. Chang wants to act in a low-key position in the electronics industry, he should not only consider foreign countries, but also pay more attention to domestic actions, or rather, pay more attention to domestic affairs......
Although he and Chang Haonan had business dealings, they did not have much personal communication in the past, and they only knew that the latter was capable of research, but did not understand the role Chang Haonan played in a series of events in the past.
That's why there is such a reminder.
"Don't worry, I'll be careful."
Chang Haonan naturally knew that the other party had good intentions, and nodded his head to show his understanding:
"And I'm experienced in dealing with this kind of thing."
Obviously, in today's timeline, due to his series of tosses, Dream Group has encountered development obstacles in China early.
It is also a matter of time before there is a conflict.
Before Huaxia truly became the world's factory, the functions of companies like Dream Group were generally positive.
After all, even if it is an assembly plant, assembling electronic products belongs to the high-tech field, which is definitely a valuable industry for Huaxia at this stage.
However, when Huaxia is no longer satisfied with just being a world factory, these enterprises, which have become accustomed to making money lying down as factories, have turned into a role that drags them back.
This is a structural contradiction.
The more he does and the greater the role he plays, the sooner China will develop into the upper reaches of the international industrial division of labor.
It will run counter to the interests of the comprador property group.
In fact, this is the same reason that a few years ago, he wanted to develop independent aviation industry standards, but was obstructed by a group of people.
Taking people's jobs is like killing parents.
It's just that at that time, Chang Haonan was just a little Karami with little energy.
Even the influence of the Commission of Science and Technology has to be borrowed through Du Yishan.
There's not much you can do.
Therefore, most of the pressure, whether it is the specific countermeasures that he came up with, were all completed by Ding Gaoheng.
But now, times are different.
In the Boeing merger and acquisition case, as well as the upcoming Allied operation, even the Americans dare to do it, let alone a dream group that has not even completely invested in the United States......
"Academician Li."
Chang Haonan's personality belongs to the kind that can not fight for the length of the moment, but must determine the long-term victory or defeat, and he already has the idea of drawing salary from the bottom of the dream group:
"I wonder if your company is interested in developing in areas other than commercial servers and supercomputing?"
Li Jie looked at Chang Haonan with a little curiosity, but he still nodded honestly:
"Of course, after the previous heat of supercomputing and servers, the market is a bit oversaturated, and the number of new orders can be maintained without falling down, and if you want to further improve, you must either find a way to open up overseas markets as you just said, or expand other businesses horizontally."
"But we don't really have the resources outside of commercial aircraft...... Take the PC market with the largest profit margin now, for example, the layout of the entry has already been completed, and we will go down again, first, the superiors may not approve this kind of repetitive construction, and second, we can only pick up some leftovers that other manufacturers do not want......"
Objectively speaking, the Dream Group is indeed gaining momentum at present, and it is very difficult to come up and turn the tables against the wind in the opponent's advantageous game.
The opportunity lies in the fact that in a few years, Huaxia's government and enterprise procurement will try to introduce localization indicators for the first time, especially the localization of operating systems.
In the original timeline, this first attempt was ultimately unsuccessful.
But now there is a chance.
Therefore, what Chang Haonan wanted to go was originally a roundabout strategy:
"In the PC area, it is really unrealistic to want to compete head-on with those few companies immediately."
"However, as you mentioned earlier, we have set up a joint venture with an Italian machine tool company, and we are responsible for the industrial control part."
"It's just that the software is indeed written by ourselves, but the hardware still needs to be purchased from imported models......"
Having said that, how can Li Jie still not understand:
"You mean to start with industrial control equipment, microcontrollers and the like......"
"But the level of domestic hardware ......"
Of course, Chang Haonan has already had a draft:
"High-end products are definitely not good now, but you can start from the low-end."
"Regardless of the level, we still have to build the domestic industry ecology first, and we can't feed the entire semiconductor industry chain by selling supercomputers and servers alone......"
"You also have a line of low-end models?"
Li Jie's focus is a little different:
"I've heard people say before that the first product you launched is something that has never been produced in China before."
Chang Haonan waved his hand:
"There is definitely no joint venture with Italy, we need to rely on that to play brand influence, so the first three-axis CNC machining center released is the lowest-end model."
"However, the follow-up may set up an industrial control division, specializing in providing solutions for ordinary machine tools to CNC machine tools to other machine tool companies, especially domestic machine tool companies, which must be based on low-end business."
"Don't look at our country's machine tool strength is not strong, but the output is not low, this business has been seized, although the profit margin is relatively miserable, but it is not a problem to feed a set of upstream and downstream industries."
"Wait until the level of talent improves, and then return to the PC market with a high localization rate, although it should not be attractive to personal business, but even if you only eat sensitive units to purchase this cake, it is enough......"
(End of chapter)