Chapter 462: I Still Believe in Science
"Foreigners can have fun, why can't we play, we have a head less than foreigners, or what? Lao Liu, why didn't I see that you, a thick-eyed and big-eyed person, were so admiring foreigners?"
Hearing Liu Zhifeng's questioning, Han Weichang pretended to be unhappy and retorted, and easily buckled Liu Zhifeng with a big hat.
"What is the name of Chongyang, what years and months, still use such words. ”
Liu Zhifeng didn't care. The word Chongyang flattery, that is, when he and Han Weichang were young, was popular, and it was indeed a big hat at that time. Time has passed, and today's people don't use this word for a long time, and it's not a shame to be said to worship foreign people.
"I mean, multi-station machine tools are not simple things, you haven't done it in the past, how can you suddenly make it?" Liu Zhifeng changed to a euphemism.
Han Weichang said: "Multi-station machine tools do have some technical know-how, but if you figure it out, there is nothing mysterious. The multi-station machine tool is mainly to solve the coordination problem of each working face and ensure a good working beat. In this regard, we invited experts from the Institute of Mathematics of the Chinese Academy of Sciences to help us design and develop an operations research model.
"By the way, our group has also hired a group of Russian mathematicians to help, and these people are experts in this kind of modeling. I said earlier that some of our designs are stronger than Heimsat, and that's what the Russian mathematicians said. ”
"The Russians and the Germans are bitter rivals, and what they say doesn't necessarily count. Liu Zhifeng commented, but he already believed it a little in his heart.
"There is also a thing that tool vibration affects each other, in fact, it is a problem of flexible connection of a tool shaft, we have experimented with more than a dozen tool shaft connection schemes, and this problem has been successfully solved. If you don't believe it, you can ask your assistant to check the technical patents, we have applied for international patents for seven kinds of tool shaft flexible connections, at least in this aspect, our level is higher than that of Dyno. Han Weichang continued.
"What you said is true?" Liu Zhifeng was a little surprised. He is also a person with some mechanical foundation, even if he doesn't understand these things very well, he can hear some famous ones. When Han Weichang talks about this level, even if he is a little exaggerated, he will not be too floating.
"So, what about the price of your machine tools?" Liu Zhifeng asked an important question.
Han Weichang stretched out a slap, shook it in front of him, and said: "The specific price needs to be calculated, but we have made a comparison, and compared with the same kind of machine tools in Someno, our price is only equivalent to fifty percent of them." ”
"Can it be so low?" Liu Zhifeng couldn't believe it.
As mentioned earlier, the automobile industry is the largest user of the machine tool industry, and in turn, the purchase of machine tools is also the largest project in the equipment procurement of automobile enterprises, which generally accounts for 40% of the total investment in the automobile industry. Puqi is preparing to build a new production line in Fengmei Automobile Company, and it is expected to invest nearly 6 billion yuan, half of which is used for the purchase of machine tools, and the most expensive is to import several sets of multi-station special machine tools.
The price of a single special machine tool is not very high, but the production volume of modern automobile factories is large, and the number of machine tools required is extremely considerable. Based on the annual output of 200,000 vehicles in a production line, an average of nearly 600 vehicles will be produced every day. Of course, the parts and components needed for these 600 vehicles cannot be produced with one set of equipment, but several sets of equipment must be produced at the same time.
On this production line, there are as many as 50 special machine tools for processing gearboxes, that is, 50 gearboxes are produced at any time, and only in this way can the demand for 600 cars per day be guaranteed. In addition to gearboxes, the production of large components such as engines, frames, and cockpits also requires multiple machine tools to work at the same time, and the technical department of Pudong Automobile has roughly calculated that the total number of multi-station machine tools required may reach more than 300.
The price of a single machine tool is multiplied by more than 300, and this figure cannot be underestimated. If the price of each machine tool can be reduced by fifty percent, then the saved equipment investment will be calculated in billions, which is not tempted by Liu Zhifeng.
"Let me tell you, Lao Liu, the prices of the machine tools sold to us by foreign companies are exaggerated several times. People make money that you can't make yourself. This is just like the car you make, the same car, the price of imports is several times the price of domestic production, how much difference do you say this performance can be?
"Isn't a car just four wheels and three sofas, how much is this worth? However, an imported car is cheaper than 200,000 yuan, and it can be more expensive than several million, so could it be that a car made by foreigners is more fuel-efficient than ours?" Han Weichang said nonsense.
"Foreign-made cars are indeed more fuel-efficient for us. Liu Zhifeng wanted to cry and corrected Han Weichang's statement without tears. His family knows his own affairs, and in terms of cars, the quality of imported cars is indeed better, which Liu Zhifeng does not dare to say.
However, he also understood what Han Weichang meant, that is, there is a lot of moisture in the quotation of foreign equipment, and the price of domestic products will be more conscientious in comparison. Multi-station automotive special machine tools, in the past domestic enterprises can not be built, foreign companies sky-high asking price is also a normal thing. Now the Linji Group has made the machine tool out, or to be precise, they have the ability to get the machine tool out, and the price is only equivalent to fifty percent of the imported machine tool, which is not surprising.
Liu Zhifeng also believes that if the multi-station automobile special machine tool of Linji Group is true, and the technical level is not much worse than that of foreign countries, enterprises such as Dyeno and Hemsart will definitely greatly reduce the price of their products in order to maintain their market share in China. At that time, he will not dare to say that the price is only half of the import, and it can be 70% or 80%, which is enough to satisfy Liu Zhifeng.
"That's it, Mr. Han, I can't be the master of this matter, I will report your situation to the group headquarters and let them judge. If you have any technical information, try to give it to me, and I will ask the technical department to study it carefully to see if your technical solution is credible. Liu Zhifeng said.
Han Weichang left a bunch of technical information and left, Liu Zhifeng did not dare to slack off, and took the information to meet Mo Jingrong, deputy general manager of the group in charge of technology and equipment, and reported the matter to him.
Hearing that Linji Group can provide multi-station machine tools, Mo Jingrong also came to the technical department with Liu Zhifeng, and asked Xu Mao, the technical director, to analyze the authenticity of the matter.
Judging from the information provided by the machine, they have indeed put some effort into saying that it is possible for them to build multi-station machine tools similar to those in Japan and Germany. Xu Mao said.
"What about the quality?" Mo Jingrong asked.
Xu Mao said: "In terms of quality, I think I am afraid I will not be too optimistic. Someno and Heimsat have decades of experience in producing multi-station machine tools, and Linji has never done this kind of machine tool before this, how can their quality be compared with Someno and them?"
"Linji still attaches great importance to product quality. Liu Zhifeng said, "During the late 80s and early 90s, the management of the factory leadership team was chaotic, and the product quality was indeed some problems. Later, the Ministry of Machinery sent Zhou Heng and Tang Zifeng, who is now the general manager of Linji, to Linyi Machine and carried out a solid rectification, and since then, the product quality of Linyi Machine has been very reliable.
Later, Linyi merged with Tengji and established Linji Group. Linji Group attaches great importance to product quality and after-sales service, and is also well-known in the industry. Although they haven't built multi-station machine tools in the past, since they dare to sell them, I think they should have a good idea of the quality of the product. ”
"Lao Liu, you can't speak by impression. Xu Mao choked unceremoniously. Most of the people who are engaged in technology are a little arrogant, and they always feel that these people who are engaged in sales and procurement are too philistine, and they are not as pragmatic as those who are engaged in technology. "Transfer machines are not traditional machines, and the difference between the two is huge," he says. Even if there is some accumulation in the traditional machine tools, it also pays more attention to quality, and now it is inevitable that it will be a little stretched to engage in multi-station machine tools.
"They don't necessarily deliberately ignore the quality of the product, I'm just afraid that they don't know how to control the quality of the multi-station machine tool, they have no experience in successful application at all, how can they know what kind of problems will happen to this kind of machine tool?"
"Then what does Mr. Xu mean?" asked Liu Zhifeng a little unhappily.
These words stopped Xu Mao. He was stunned for a while, looked at Mo Jingrong and asked, "Mr. Mo, what does the group mean?"
Mo Jingrong did not evade, he said: "The machine side claims that the performance of their machine tools is similar to that of Someno, but the price can be fifty percent lower than that of Someno. The group's funds are very tight now, and if Fengmei's production line can save two or three billion dollars, it is very important for the group. ”
"However, if there is a problem with the quality of the machine tool, or the performance is not up to the level they claim, and the production of Fengmei will be affected in the future, and our loss will be even greater. Xu Mao reminded.
Liu Zhifeng said: "Mr. Xu, you haven't seen the design of the machine, why do you think that their quality will be problematic? At the same time, we can also sign a quality assurance agreement with Linji, if their products really have quality problems in the future, let them compensate us for losses. ”
"If this really happens, our losses are not something they can afford to compensate. Xu Mao said stubbornly.
"Linji is also an old enterprise with a history of several decades, and they still do things in a measured way. ”
"I don't believe in proportion, I still believe in science. ”
"What is science, so that foreign machine tools will not have problems? Believing in foreign countries is believing in science?"
"It's true that foreign products are more reliable, don't you admit it?"
"According to your meaning, the cars produced by our Puqi are also unreliable?"
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(End of chapter)