After taking a sip of coffee, the taste was not good, after putting down the cup, Lu Tao was very calm, and said with a smile: "Is it possible that Manager Liu thinks I am lying to you?"

"Not really. Liu Hui hurriedly waved his hand, and then said in a deep voice: "It is said that the people of the Northeast are very cool, then I don't say secret words, a few of us have already contacted us before a few of us are ready to come out, but we have been thinking about it." In our industry, the circle of contacts is one thing, and on the other hand, it also depends on the person. “

Lu Tao nodded, he had already explained his intention on the phone, and the face-to-face conversation at this moment still recognized Liu Hui's words very much.

Don't look at Lu Tao as a reborn person, but if you want to talk about the real ability, even now, it is estimated that he is not as strong as Liu Huiqiang in front of him, he actually relies on his own unique vision now.

"That's for sure, that's why I came to visit you, just to be able to talk face-to-face, after all, there are some things that are not clear on the phone. ”

"Yes. Liu Hui nodded in approval. When Lu Tao called him, he was also more surprised, he came out of Merck, and it was not surprising that people in the circle knew about it, but why Lu Tao, who was far away in Shenyang, had to make a special trip to Shanghai to invite him to join, the reason is somewhat debatable. You must know that at that time, there were very few domestic companies on biological products, and almost all of them were monopolized by foreign companies, even if it was Merck, it was only three or four years in China, and the company had different views on the future development prospects.

In his opinion, the prospects of biopharmaceuticals are very broad, in the early years, people in the early years with the tide of reform and development to do business in the sea to earn a lot of money, they now have some savings in their hands, to technology and technology, if you can take this opportunity to partner with others, it is also a very good principle.

"If I agree, how much does Mr. Lu plan to invest in the early stage?" Just like procurement, a product, a thing, and the offer and conditions promised to the other party have a psychological expectation, and once they do not meet their psychological expectations, it is very likely that they will be miscarried.

Therefore, Liu Hui began to be honest and asked directly about Lu Tao's bottom line, in a word, you can join, it depends on how much you are ready to invest.

"I heard that you talked to Mr. Tu from Huayue a few days ago?" Lu Tao didn't answer directly, smiled, and asked another question.

"I didn't think that Mr. Lu was in Shenyang, and he knew all these things?"

How could Lu Tao not know that before he came, he had made all the preparations, and this time he had to take it no matter what.

"Yes, not only me, but also several others, including Dr. Li Ping under Professor NICO, and the vice president of marketing of Novartis, we all talked about it in detail. Liu Hui didn't hide it, thinking of the results of the negotiation a few days ago, he didn't feel very comfortable.

The reason is simple, he is the product manager of Merck, in terms of technology, he can't compare to a few doctors who specialize in scientific research, in terms of contacts, he can't compare to Novartis's Mr. Huang, and in terms of funds, he can't compare to Mr. Tu, the reason why Mr. Tu invited him to join, to put it bluntly, is that he took a fancy to his previous experience in Merck.

Although the experience is good, it is naturally much worse than several other people, so even with the conditions agreed, it is far from what he got in Merck before.

It can also be seen from this point that Lu Tao has indeed worked hard, and it is Liu Hui, who is in a marginal position in the team, who chooses to start, rather than others.

Of course, the result of the negotiation with Mr. Tu, Liu Hui did not say it directly, once he said it, it was to show his hole cards, and his status in the team was not as good as others, which was equivalent to lowering his value, and if he really wanted to cooperate with Lu Tao later, he might get less.

As a result of the discussion, Lu Tao didn't ask, some things can be said, but some words are not suitable to be said directly, so as not to embarrass everyone, but just asked: "How much does Mr. Tu plan to invest?"

To create such a company, there are almost three ways for a person to become a shareholder, one is to invest in technology, but to invest in capital, and the third is to invest in connections.

With a finger, Liu Hui said, "One million." “

"One million?" Lu Tao was stunned for a moment, in his memory, Bi Yuntian did a lot behind him, and he initially started selling the products he developed, but he still didn't believe it when he only invested one million at the beginning.

"Yes, Tu always plans to invest a million, and the specific technology is a few doctors in charge. “

Lu Tao thought of a key point and asked directly: "Then how do you produce?"

The production of biological products is controlled by relatively strict countries, and some production workshops require high conditions, coupled with the cost of research and development, what can be done with such a small investment?

"Hehe, this kind of thing, what do you think you need to produce, if the quantity is small, the laboratory of the scientific research institution can make it. Liu Hui disagreed, and was a little disappointed with Lu Tao's ignorance.

"The small amount must be so, relying on the large laboratories of scientific research institutions to conduct scientific research, but since it is to engage in entity and research and development, it must still be produced, so what if the amount is large?"

Lu Tao doesn't mind, if he wants to talk about chemistry, he really understands it very well, otherwise his chemical reagents would not have thought of using OEM. It is said that interlacing is like separating mountains, and in terms of biology, he only touches on it, and he really can't figure out a lot of specific things.

"You don't know much about the product we plan to make?" Liu Hui smiled.

"Oh?"

"We planned to make kits at the beginning, I wonder if Mr. Lu knows the production process of kits?" asked Liu Hui slowly.

Lu Tao shook his head: "I know more about chemical reagents, the kit has only been sold, and the specific production process is really not clear." Lu Tao replied very honestly. The impression on Liu Hui is naturally that he is ashamed to ask.

"Let's take a simple ELISA kit as an example. Liu Hui said that ELISA, also known as enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay, is a type of experiment that is often done in molecular biology experiments.

"The equipment needed is very simple, almost all laboratories engaged in molecular biology have them, such as microplate readers, incubators, but they are equipped with coating solution, and then they are washed at a fixed temperature, and finally the kit is dried and bagged. ”

Liu Hui said it relatively simply, and the specific operation steps were not said, but Lu Tao was also a person who had been in the laboratory, and as soon as he heard it, he understood the trick. To put it bluntly, it is completely possible to configure the reagents in the laboratory, and then put them in bags, as for the specific operation steps, I believe that the people who do such experiments can be very competent.

According to what Liu Hui said, the production process is so simple, so the investment will not be too large, but looking at Liu Hui's meaning, it seems that he is not very satisfied with the results of the previous negotiations.

Therefore, Lu Tao's mind was spinning rapidly, and he thought of the key place, saying what kind of technology is invested in shares, and what kind of benefits can be brought to these people.

"The initial investment is a trivial matter, and the focus is on the sales of the later products. Lu Tao laughed.

"Yes, when a new product comes out, customers must be willing to use it and be willing to buy it. Liu Hui agreed.

Since this is recognized by the other party, Lu Tao is easier to talk about.