Academician Ding was quite satisfied with the question raised by Zhu Quan, and immediately explained the conspiracy constructed by the developed countries in it, explaining the purpose of bullying the so-called "carbon emission rights", a virtual resource.

Of course, this was all superficial and didn't take too long.

Those who understand will understand!

Those who don't understand will also be disseminated by the "grapevine" after the show is broadcast.

"So, this IPCC body is not an authoritative body!

It's just a company funded by Wall Street capital, packaged by Western media, and endorsed by the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize, so as to lead the public to believe that the IPCC is an "authoritative body", so that the public is convinced of the big lie that they fabricated "global warming", right? ”

Zhu Quan used a large number of sentences, all of which are products under the control of Western capitalism, and they are very professional.

"Yes!"

Academician Ding was concise and to the point.

The explanation is very detailed and easy to understand, and when answering the "yes or no question", it is very simple.

Going back to your paper, Academician Ding, you came to the conclusion that "first the temperature changes, then the carbon dioxide changes", and you gave the approximate time, that is, "carbon dioxide is 100 years behind the temperature".

In this case, can I understand that "the temperature change comes first, and the inflection point of carbon dioxide comes later", is this a causal relationship? ”

Zhu Quan questioned.

That's the key!

Because whether it is the temperature or carbon dioxide, who comes first and who comes last, as long as there is a causal relationship, there will be "sufficient, necessary" and other conditions to study.

Academician Ding said in a deep voice: "The causal relationship needs to be studied. ”

After saying this, Academician Ding immediately took out a drawing, and explained to Zhu Quan and the camera, saying:

"There are four forecast maps here. The first forecast I made in 2002 was supposed to be a decline from 1998 to 2030 to 2040. ”

Zhu Quan asked, "And then?" ”

Academician Ding: "Then go up again." ”

Zhu Quan continued: "You are actually predicting that until 2030 or 2040, we will always be in a state of cooling. ”

Academician Ding nodded and replied: "On such a long scale, I am not talking about the next hundred years, I am only talking about sixty or seventy years under such a fluctuation, it should decline." ”

"Does this have anything to do with human activity?"

"It doesn't matter."

...

After discussing this first topic, Zhu Quan naturally led the topic from this paper to the Copenhagen climate conference, which is closely related to the paper.

In order to facilitate the understanding of the audience of the program, Zhu Quan still needs to stand in the position of ordinary viewers first, and let the audience watching the program quickly understand the Copenhagen climate conference by asking questions.

Of course, if it's just for convenience, you can also insert a VCR in the interview to inform the audience through voice-over commentary.

But if you do this, the effect is far less powerful than the sense of substitution from Zhu Quan asking Academician Ding in person.

Watching a show is the same as reading a novel.

Only if the reader is allowed to pass through the text of the novel, whether it is the plot or the language, or a passage from it, as long as it resonates and attracts the reader to continue reading, it will be successful.

It's the same with watching the show!

Especially interview programs, to be precise, news interview programs.

Because the interviewers have no "traffic", without the blessing of fans, there is no guarantee of ratings.

Zhu Quan asked questions from the perspective of ordinary audiences, giving the audience a sense of substitution, so as to attract the audience to continue watching.

Zhu Quan asked: "The Copenhagen climate conference has always felt like a sharp and fierce quarrel, but what is this arguing about? Can Academician Ding give us a deeper explanation? ”

Academician Ding Zhongli nodded, and the smile on his face became even bigger, he really liked the question raised by Zhu Quan.

Although Chai Jing'er also asked this question, the tone of her question was obviously with this accusation against herself.

After all, because of his strong opposition, he used his qualifications and fame to directly unite many developing countries to vote against it, so that the Copenhagen climate conference did not make any substantial progress.

But Zhu Quan's attitude towards asking the same question is completely different.

Zhu Quan gave him the feeling that he was really asking on behalf of ordinary audiences in China.

Thinking of this, Academician Ding explained: "In fact, the noisy question is very simple, that is, how much carbon dioxide can be emitted by different countries in the future. ”

That's what you mentioned earlier, right? ”

"Yes!"

"How much is this emission and what is the substance?"

Zhu Quan followed the question just now and continued to ask to help the audience understand step by step.

Academician Ding raised an index finger and said:

"To put it simply, this issue is linked to the energy issue, and the development issue is linked to the issue. Therefore, the battle for half a day is how much I can emit, how much energy I can use, and this emission means the right to development in the future. ”

Zhu Quan continued: "Then what does this emission right mean for ordinary citizens?" ”

Academician Ding Zhongli smiled indifferently and said:

"It means so much! It means the improvement of life, the development of the country, whether the social welfare and personal welfare of you, me, him and other ordinary people can be further increased, and it also means whether you have a job or not. ”

Zhu Quan nodded heavily, his eyes full of admiration.

After watching the video of Academician Ding's interview with Chai Jinger yesterday, Zhu Quan's biggest feeling was not the problem of the environment, nor the conspiracy of Western developed countries, but his admiration for Academician Ding.

Because of Academician Ding, his own understanding of the development of the earth's environment has reached a height that is even difficult for ordinary people to understand.

At present, the attitude of the vast majority of people, including Zhu Quan himself, towards the changes in the earth's environment is to stay in the concern of being the master of the planet, in order to protect the continuation of human beings and other species, and as a member of this species group.

However, Academician Ding gave Zhu Quan the feeling that he had jumped out of the human species and the entire species group on the earth, but stood at the height of the earth and looked at environmental problems from the perspective of hundreds of millions of years of development.

Humanity has done all this, like countless species that have appeared on this planet, only to perish after consuming the resources they need to survive.

For humanity, it could be a catastrophe.

However, for the earth, a tree that supports countless species, it may be just a fallen leaf that has lost its nutrients.

That's why Academician Ding said:

"The earth does not need to be saved, it is humanity itself that needs to be saved."

Oh, yes! The only one who can save humanity is humanity itself.

That is to produce a more inclusive civilization in this harmonious and different world, and only in this way can we not "blind the eyes of a leaf, and not see Mount Tai".

Thinking of this, Zhu Quan's worship of Academician Ding is almost to the extent of worship.

If he hadn't been interviewing now, Zhu Quan would definitely have held Academician Ding's hand, saluted him, and said sincerely:

"You've done a great job!"