Chapter 263 The dilemma of the 3.0T twin-turbo engine and the resurgence of the topic of car building
There are no eternal enemies, and there are no eternal friends.
Bosch can't kill Nanshan, and Nanshan can't kill Bosch.
Then in the short term, you can only compromise first.
Therefore, Cao Yang's meeting with Bosch and United Electronics is naturally not a surprise or an accident.
The two sides have a tacit understanding to put aside disputes, discuss what can be discussed, and pull down if they can't.
However, although there are no surprises in this regard, there are new achievements within Nanshan.
"Mr. Cao, the prototype of our 3.0T turbocharged engine has been successfully developed, although some parts need to make some design changes in order to better enter mass production."
"But this technology doesn't have much threshold for us."
Cheng Tao is the general manager of Nanshan Engine, and the 3.0T turbocharged engine took the lead in making a breakthrough, so he naturally came to report to Cao Yang as soon as possible.
"Oh? What about the parameters, and have they all met the design goals? ”
Cao Yang put down the work in his hand and chatted with Cheng Tao with joy.
The engine and transmission business will be the Group's main source of profit in the coming years.
Although domestic independent brands want to engage in these two things themselves, there is definitely no way to surpass Nanshan in a short period of time.
This piece of business can continue to contribute a lot of profits to Nanshan.
"With the twin-turbocharger, our 3.0T V6 engine can reach a maximum power of 280 kW and a maximum torque of 520 Nm."
"So far, the parameters of our engine are definitely far ahead in the same class."
"Not to mention that domestic independent brands do not have products in this area at all, even international counterparts are also commonly used in large-displacement naturally aspirated engines, and there is no rival to find one."
"In this parameter, it is completely comparable to a 4.5L naturally aspirated engine, and even compared with the data of some 5.0L naturally aspirated engines."
"The most important thing is that we have been tested, and it is expected that if this car is mounted on a model weighing about 2 tons, the fuel consumption can be about 7 per 100 kilometers under comprehensive working conditions."
"Even in actual road conditions, it can achieve less than 9 oils, which is definitely a perfect balance between fuel consumption and power."
Cheng Tao participated in the research and development of this engine throughout the process, and he is naturally very familiar with various parameters.
"In addition to these performance parameters, our prototype should have been endurance tested and no major problems were found."
"The next step will be to find a car for a real vehicle test to further verify the relevant data."
"On this engine, we try to make the parts as common as possible with the 1.5T to reduce its production cost."
"At present, it is expected that 30% of the parts can be shared, and the other 20% is expected to be shared with the 2.0T turbocharged engine under development."
"Although it has not officially entered mass production, our financial and procurement personnel of Nanshan Engine have jointly made a cost calculation, and the bare metal cost of this engine can be about 25,000 yuan."
"Even if you add accessories such as starters and generators, the cost will not exceed 35,000 yuan."
"If the output can reach a certain amount, then the cost can even be controlled within 30,000 yuan."
Cheng Tao continued to explain there.
However, Mi Ying next to her couldn't help but interject and said, "Mr. Cheng, is our engine used by the main engine factory?" ”
"This ......"
Cheng Tao suddenly became distracted.
It's not that he hasn't talked to the sales department about this, but so far, none of the customers have really been interested in this area.
After all, for most domestic car companies, a 1.5T turbocharged engine is enough.
At most, it will be raised to 2.0T turbocharging, and there will not be much market if it is higher.
Especially when the displacement reaches 3.0T, the consumption tax is different.
It is impossible for OEMs not to consider these issues.
Besides, the current independent brands are still in the time of fighting prices.
To build a large-displacement engine that costs more than twice as much as 1.5T is obviously not a choice.
In 10 years, things may be different.
"Mr. Cao, no matter whether anyone chooses to buy this engine now, but after we master the technology of the 3.0T twin-turbo engine, it is very beneficial to the improvement of the level of our entire company."
"Even we can take this engine as a focus of external publicity, and get a few prototypes to carry it, so that everyone can fully see the technical level of Nanshan Group."
When Cheng Tao said this, he felt that this proposal seemed very good.
Immediately added: "Mr. Cao, why don't we make a few prototypes ourselves, which will be used for external technology display." ”
"Our group now has a variety of parts such as engines and gearboxes, and there are also some new parts technology under research on Nanshan Auto Parts."
"If there is a special model to carry and display our parts technology, it will definitely be very convincing when various auto shows and technology exhibitions are held in the future."
The more Cheng Tao spoke, the more excited he became.
He seemed to see the scene of the 3.0T twin-turbo engine shocking the world.
He even fantasized about whether this engine could win an international award.
"Mr. Cheng, if you just make a few prototypes for the sake of technology demonstration, the cost seems to be a bit high."
"The tooling and molds of various parts will be an amount of hundreds of millions, not to mention that a lot of manpower and material resources are needed to design and produce such a few prototypes."
"If that's the case, it's better to just build your own car!"
When Mi Ying said this, Cao Yang was a little touched.
However, Cheng Tao's reaction next to him was even more exaggerated.
"Mr. Cao, in fact, I think the group can fully participate in the production of the whole vehicle and launch some products that are better than the models produced by the joint venture, so that they can also know that Huaxia people are not unable to produce good models."
"Isn't Nanshan Gearbox working on an 8AT automatic transmission?"
"I heard that the progress is relatively smooth, and the new car is equipped with a 3.0T twin-turbo engine and an 8AT automatic transmission, which is definitely beyond all domestic models."
"Such a car can also directly avoid the production range of independent brands such as BYD, Geely, and Great Wall, so as not to compete with them."
"It is even possible to avoid the models produced in China by the joint venture and directly compete with some imported models with large displacement."
"At that time, our parameters will be in the lead, and the price will be cheaper than imported cars, which will definitely attract a group of consumers to buy."
"The F6 models made by a layman from BYD can sell so well, there is no reason why we are doing worse."
Cheng Tao said all his thoughts in one breath.
The more he talked, the more excited he became, and the more he talked, the more he looked forward to it.
Build a car!
It's his dream!
Even many people in Nanshan actually have the dream of building cars.
It's just that the group has never set up a project, so everyone can only hold it first.
"Mr. Cheng, did you think of this idea of building a car temporarily or did you think about it before?"
This time, Cao Yang did not directly deny Cheng Tao's proposal to build a car.
The development of Nanshan Group has also begun to enter a bottleneck stage.
Like some key components, people won't use you easily.
Even now it has begun to attract the attention and fear of many international auto parts giants.
The things that Bosch did some time ago are definitely just the beginning, not the end.
In this case, can I be flexible when I have been mentioning that I will not build a car in three or five years?
"Mr. Cao, although the idea of making a prototype car equipped with a 3.0T twin-turbo engine was just proposed."
"But the topic of group car manufacturing has been discussed in various companies within the group."
"When I chatted with Mr. Ji of Nanshan Gearbox, Mr. Pan of Nanshan Equipment, Mr. He of Nanshan Mold and others, I also mentioned the topic of car manufacturing, and everyone is actually looking forward to it."
"China's automobile market is now in a stage of rapid development, and this year it is determined that it can exceed 5 million units in sales, and surpass the United States to become the world's largest automobile market in the future, that is, within ten years."
"In this case, we can continue to grow and develop by focusing on the parts and equipment business."
"But that kind of growth rate should still be inferior to that of building a car by yourself."
"I'll give you an example, if we produce a car of 150,000 yuan, as long as we sell 100,000 units a year, the turnover can increase by 15 billion yuan."
"The group's turnover target for this year is 50 billion, and although it is challenging at present, it is still possible to achieve it."
"But it will be very difficult to continue to increase rapidly on this basis next year."
"Even I have a not very good prediction, the company will continue to develop like this, and it may not be able to reach the scale of 100 billion in turnover in the next five years."
"Nanshan has accumulated deep experience in the field of auto parts, and none of the domestic independent brand car companies is more powerful than our technology."
"In this case, we don't build cars, it's a waste of resources!"
Cheng Tao felt the loosening of Cao Yang's tone, and naturally went all out to persuade Cao Yang to consider building a car.
No matter how powerful Nanshan Group is, if it does not build a car, its influence is still relatively limited.
After all, all customers are TO B, and there is no way to compare with TO C.
It's like Warwick, not many people know about it now.
However, after people made mobile phones, computers and other TO C products, the popularity immediately began to skyrocket.
"Mr. Cao, I think what Mr. Cheng said also makes sense."
"The group can really consider building its own car now!"
Mi Ying was very intentional and added a fire next to it.
"I also know that you are worried that after the group enters the vehicle production business, our customers will not give up using Nanshan's products."
"This concern is very necessary, but it is far from that serious."
"First of all, we can't find other alternatives for our engines and gearboxes in China, unless they choose products with worse quality and more expensive costs, or they will continue to buy from us in a short time."
"Then there are various parts such as ESP, and the monopoly of these parts is very strong."
"Various car companies either choose Bosch, Continental, Denso and other international parts giants, or buy from us."
"Not to mention that our parts technology is better than others, the difference in cost alone can make many independent brands continue to choose to cooperate with us."
"Besides, almost all the models produced by BYD and Geely are within 150,000 or even 100,000."
"Not to mention that the profit margin is very low, the competition is still fierce, and basically it is won by price."
"We can completely stagger this part of the market and compete directly with joint venture car companies and even imported models."
"Especially the 3.0T twin-turbo engine and 8AT automatic transmission that Mr. Cheng just mentioned, it can compete with the power of the imported BMW 5 series or even BMW 7 series, and when the time comes, people will sell 1 million, and we will sell 500,000."
"With Mr. Cao's genius performance in styling, you definitely don't have to worry that no one will buy it."
"The production of this high-end model for the first model can also allow BYD's partners to temporarily let down their wariness of us and continue to cooperate with us in the parts business."
Mi Ying knows Cao Yang very well.
Cheng Tao could feel the change in Cao Yang's attitude.
She, who is a secretary, can naturally feel it even more.
So she directly made an analysis based on the situation she had grasped in the past.
made Cao Yang's worries let go of a lot.
"Mr. Cao, I think what Secretary Mi said is very reasonable."
"We build high-end models first, which is also very beneficial for building the brand image."
"The first car may not necessarily make much money, but after this high-end image is played, whether it is used to promote our auto parts or for the promotion of new models in the future, it can play a good role."
"Even if we want to further reduce the wariness of OEMs, our first car can be developed as a technical demonstration prototype in the early stage."
"Then at least it can buy us an extra year, so that the OEMs can be less wary of us."
Cheng Tao and Mi Ying, you say a word, and I persuade you there.
made Cao Yang a little crying and laughing.
He is not blindly opposed to building cars.
Instead, they want to accumulate a good amount of parts and equipment, and wait until the financial crisis to directly intercept Hu Asan and acquire Jaguar Land Rover.
When the time comes, these two brands will operate well, and they can be used as a perfect springboard for Nanshan Group to enter the automobile manufacturing.
Now it seems that this idea needs to be adjusted.
Everyone is safe and healthy during the Dragon Boat Festival
(End of chapter)